Is Pennsylvania a hardass when it comes to C&F? Forum

[Anonymous User]

How would they handle non-academic (behavioral/moral) misconduct while you're IN law school?

Conduct in question rage-fueled harassment and profane outbursts at others at the law school. thankfully nothing got physical, but i was kind of a total bitch, and feel bad about how out of hand i got. have been treated by a psychiatrist on a regular basis after said conduct occurred (late aug/early sept 2013). during the time of said conduct, i was on a psychotropic medication that has irritability/mood swings as a side effect (strattera), and was recommended to be taken off of it. Not on it since Oct, and doing better, grades-wise and behavior-wise.

Rehabbing myself through counseling and a doing shitton of pro bono work at various legal aid agencies. have accumulated ~230 hours already and volunteered full-time thru winter break (will do the same for spring break)

No debt. T30ish school.

[daryldixon]

How would they handle non-academic (behavioral/moral) misconduct while you're IN law school?

Conduct in question rage-fueled harassment and profane outbursts at others at the law school over a grade/class. thankfully nothing got physical, but i was kind of a total bitch, and feel bad about how out of hand i got. have been treated by a psychiatrist on a regular basis after said conduct occurred (late aug/early sept 2013). during the time of said conduct, i was on a psychotropic medication that has irritability/mood swings as a side effect (strattera), and was recommended to be taken off of it. Not on it since Oct, and doing better, grades-wise and behavior-wise.

Rehabbing myself through counseling and a doing shitton of pro bono work at various legal aid agencies. have accumulated ~230 hours already and volunteered full-time thru winter break (will do the same for spring break)

No debt. T30ish school.

Is this conduct on your permanent record?

[Anonymous User]

How would they handle non-academic (behavioral/moral) misconduct while you're IN law school?

Conduct in question rage-fueled harassment and profane outbursts at others at the law school over a grade/class. thankfully nothing got physical, but i was kind of a total bitch, and feel bad about how out of hand i got. have been treated by a psychiatrist on a regular basis after said conduct occurred (late aug/early sept 2013). during the time of said conduct, i was on a psychotropic medication that has irritability/mood swings as a side effect (strattera), and was recommended to be taken off of it. Not on it since Oct, and doing better, grades-wise and behavior-wise.

Rehabbing myself through counseling and a doing shitton of pro bono work at various legal aid agencies. have accumulated ~230 hours already and volunteered full-time thru winter break (will do the same for spring break)

No debt. T30ish school.

Is this conduct on your permanent record?

it's on my school record, and of course i will frankly disclose EVERYTHING and show a ton of remorse.

crim record clean as a whistle. not even traffic violations.

[daryldixon]

How would they handle non-academic (behavioral/moral) misconduct while you're IN law school?

Conduct in question rage-fueled harassment and profane outbursts at others at the law school over a grade/class. thankfully nothing got physical, but i was kind of a total bitch, and feel bad about how out of hand i got. have been treated by a psychiatrist on a regular basis after said conduct occurred (late aug/early sept 2013). during the time of said conduct, i was on a psychotropic medication that has irritability/mood swings as a side effect (strattera), and was recommended to be taken off of it. Not on it since Oct, and doing better, grades-wise and behavior-wise.

Rehabbing myself through counseling and a doing shitton of pro bono work at various legal aid agencies. have accumulated ~230 hours already and volunteered full-time thru winter break (will do the same for spring break)

No debt. T30ish school.

Is this conduct on your permanent record?

it's on my school record, and of course i will frankly disclose EVERYTHING and show a ton of remorse.

crim record clean as a whistle. not even traffic violations.

I would contact a C&F lawyer and be thoroughly honest about the situation. No one on here can tell you how the state deals with these situations.

[Anonymous User]

will the pro bono work make a difference w/r/t rehabilitation? i was interested in PI, so I know it is good to have that on the resume on the jerbs front, but will it also be a plus on the c&f front?

[Anonymous User]

dean that punished me told me that PA is not a particularly hardass state a la FL, but i wanted to hear personal perspectives from those pennsylvanians who have gone thru the c&f ordeal.

[Anonymous User]

will the pro bono work make a difference w/r/t rehabilitation? i was interested in PI, so I know it is good to have that on the resume on the jerbs front, but will it also be a plus on the c&f front?

My bar form had a paragraph for you to explain your actions. You can mention the pro bono work in the context of your misdeed.

[Anonymous User]

but will they care? will it be a mitigating factor?

[09042014]

If your school didn't kick you out, you are probably fine.

[Anonymous User]

If your school didn't kick you out, you are probably fine.

no, i am on a status called "university probation":

University Probation is the highest level of probation status, which remains in place for a specified period of time. University Probation indicates that similar or more severe violations of the Code of Student Conduct while on this status will result in the mandatory imposition of a suspension or dismissal from the University, the length being a minimum of the balance of the semester or one full semester. University Probation is a serious matter. While on University Probation, certain privileges may not be available to the student based upon the discretion of the hearing officer.

[Anonymous User]

are you being sarcastic, DF? the above description sounds pretty darn awful.

[09042014]

are you being sarcastic, DF? the above description sounds pretty darn awful.

I wasn't being sarcastic, but that does sound a lot worse than I was assuming.

[Anonymous User]

are you being sarcastic, DF? the above description sounds pretty darn awful.

I wasn't being sarcastic, but that does sound a lot worse than I was assuming.

so with that new info, you think it will be an automatic bar to my admission?

lesson of the story: words can hurt.

[thewaves]

Will your school certify you for the C&F portion?

[Anonymous User]

Will your school certify you for the C&F portion?

once the status automatically expires, which is may 2014.

[09042014]

are you being sarcastic, DF? the above description sounds pretty darn awful.

I wasn't being sarcastic, but that does sound a lot worse than I was assuming.

so with that new info, you think it will be an automatic bar to my admission?

lesson of the story: words can hurt.

I doubt it's going to be an automatic bar, but it's probably going to be a pain in the ass. Get a C&F lawyer.

[Anonymous User]

are you being sarcastic, DF? the above description sounds pretty darn awful.

I wasn't being sarcastic, but that does sound a lot worse than I was assuming.

so with that new info, you think it will be an automatic bar to my admission?

lesson of the story: words can hurt.

I doubt it's going to be an automatic bar, but it's probably going to be a pain in the ass. Get a C&F lawyer.

by how long would it delay my app? you barred in PA?

[09042014]

You are definitely fucked. Suicide is the only option.

[Anonymous User]

in addition to counseling, new meds, and pro bono work how else to mitigate damages and show rehabilitation?

[Anonymous User]

.

[Anonymous User]

dean said it would most likely not be an auto bar either, and even said, "pa is a lenient state". still, paranoid as f*ck.

[Anonymous User]

BUMP, any PA bar takers here? what is the hearing like?

[BlueLotus]

You are definitely fucked. Suicide is the only option.

DF, joking about suicide is NOT constructive and NOT OK. There are folks on the Vale thread who legit want to kill themselves.

[NYstate]

BUMP, any PA bar takers here? what is the hearing like?

Honestly, you need to hire a lawyer to help you with this process. Get a recommendation from the bar association. If the Dean is willing to be supportive, that should help.

[Anonymous User]

BUMP, any PA bar takers here? what is the hearing like?

Honestly, you need to hire a lawyer to help you with this process. Get a recommendation from the bar association. If the Dean is willing to be supportive, that should help.

a state bar ass'n? or is a city bar ass'n (or minority oriented one) OK?