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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:How would you recommend scheduling interviews with firms that are not coming to OCI, given summer internships and OCI schedules? Can you get reimbursed for travel that's not part of the OCI callback schedule?

And thanks for everyone's help on this thread!


2L here, but I have a callback scheduled in early August and the firm is paying for my airfare and hotel.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:55 am

Would like input from NY experts:

1) Kirkland & Ellis, New York, 21 slots
2) Sidley Austin, New York, 21 slots
3) Holland and Knight, Los Angeles, 11 slots
4) Goodwin Procter, Los Angeles, 6 slots
5) Proskauer Rose, New York, 21 slots
6) Latham, Los Angeles, 21 slots
7) O'Melveny & [deleted], Los Angeles, 21 slots
8 ) Davis Polk, New York, 42 slots
9) Paul Weiss, New York, 42 slots
10) Cleary, New York, 42 slots
11) Wilmer Hale, NY, 21 Slots
12) Cravath, New York, 38 slots
13) Sullivan and Cromwell, New York, 42 slots
14) Simpson Thatcher, New York, 57 slots
15) Skadden, New York, 42 slots
16) Ropes and Gray, New York, 21 slots
17) White and Case, New York, 21 slots
18) Greenberg Traurig, Los Angeles, 21 slots
19) Milbank, New York, 21 slots
20) Mayer Brown, New York, 21 slots
21) Shearman, New York, 21 slots
22) Jones Day, New York, 21 slots
23) Fried Frank, New York, 21 slots
24) DLA Piper, Los Angeles, 21 slots
25) Dechert, New York, 21 slots
26) Irell & Manella, Los Angeles, 21 slots

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:13 am

179.5 here, didnt get it, so higher than that (not surprisingly)!

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know what the grade on cut off was? Or have any guesses?

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby WheninLaw » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:54 am

Anonymous User wrote:Would like input from NY experts:

1) Kirkland & Ellis, New York, 21 slots
2) Sidley Austin, New York, 21 slots
3) Holland and Knight, Los Angeles, 11 slots
4) Goodwin Procter, Los Angeles, 6 slots
5) Proskauer Rose, New York, 21 slots
6) Latham, Los Angeles, 21 slots
7) O'Melveny & [deleted], Los Angeles, 21 slots
8 ) Davis Polk, New York, 42 slots
9) Paul Weiss, New York, 42 slots
10) Cleary, New York, 42 slots
11) Wilmer Hale, NY, 21 Slots
12) Cravath, New York, 38 slots
13) Sullivan and Cromwell, New York, 42 slots
14) Simpson Thatcher, New York, 57 slots
15) Skadden, New York, 42 slots
16) Ropes and Gray, New York, 21 slots
17) White and Case, New York, 21 slots
18) Greenberg Traurig, Los Angeles, 21 slots
19) Milbank, New York, 21 slots
20) Mayer Brown, New York, 21 slots
21) Shearman, New York, 21 slots
22) Jones Day, New York, 21 slots
23) Fried Frank, New York, 21 slots
24) DLA Piper, Los Angeles, 21 slots
25) Dechert, New York, 21 slots
26) Irell & Manella, Los Angeles, 21 slots


Why are MTO and/or GDC not on this list? DLA Piper is pretty rando.

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Postby 2014 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Would like input from NY experts:

1) Kirkland & Ellis, New York, 21 slots
2) Sidley Austin, New York, 21 slots
3) Holland and Knight, Los Angeles, 11 slots
4) Goodwin Procter, Los Angeles, 6 slots
5) Proskauer Rose, New York, 21 slots
6) Latham, Los Angeles, 21 slots
7) O'Melveny & [deleted], Los Angeles, 21 slots
8 ) Davis Polk, New York, 42 slots
9) Paul Weiss, New York, 42 slots
10) Cleary, New York, 42 slots
11) Wilmer Hale, NY, 21 Slots
12) Cravath, New York, 38 slots
13) Sullivan and Cromwell, New York, 42 slots
14) Simpson Thatcher, New York, 57 slots
15) Skadden, New York, 42 slots
16) Ropes and Gray, New York, 21 slots
17) White and Case, New York, 21 slots
18) Greenberg Traurig, Los Angeles, 21 slots
19) Milbank, New York, 21 slots
20) Mayer Brown, New York, 21 slots
21) Shearman, New York, 21 slots
22) Jones Day, New York, 21 slots
23) Fried Frank, New York, 21 slots
24) DLA Piper, Los Angeles, 21 slots
25) Dechert, New York, 21 slots
26) Irell & Manella, Los Angeles, 21 slots

Cravath and S&C are several spots too high. I'd bump Skadden ahead of them and Simpson. You aren't going to get any of the NY firms starting at Milbank. Not positive about Ropes at 16.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Neal Patrick Harris » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:47 pm

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=233623&start=25

There was just a post with some pretty good advice in that thread.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:18 pm

I realize this is probably a ridiculous question, but I assume we want to bring a resume and transcript for each firm we're interviewing with and a references list and writing sample for about half the firms we're interviewing with, all in our padfolio. If we have many back to back interviews should we really be carrying all of these papers, for all of these firms, around in the padfolio? Or is there some other trick strategy, like hiding half of them behind a couch or something.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I realize this is probably a ridiculous question, but I assume we want to bring a resume and transcript for each firm we're interviewing with and a references list and writing sample for about half the firms we're interviewing with, all in our padfolio. If we have many back to back interviews should we really be carrying all of these papers, for all of these firms, around in the padfolio? Or is there some other trick strategy, like hiding half of them behind a couch or something.

I don't know whether you're cut out for a high-stress legal job.

But seriously, bring a resume and transcript for each firm for the day and like 1 writing sample and references list. Every firm I interviewed with that wanted a writing sample said that Head of time on symplicity. Altogether that will be like 15 sheets of paper. Easy peasy. And you cn always bring a backpack and leave it with people during interviews.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:48 pm

Should we print our resumes on resume paper or regular paper?

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Should we print our resumes on resume paper or regular paper?

Regular paper is fine. I don't know of anyone who used resume paper.

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Postby WheninLaw » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Should we print our resumes on resume paper or regular paper?


Regular. And be sure to check what the firm requires. It sucked to realize 30 minutes before the interview started that the firm wanted a cover letter. Some ask for references.

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Postby 20141023 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:59 am

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby WhiteyCakes » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:01 am

You people are the reason that OCS has to send out so many mind-numbing emails

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Postby 20141023 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:03 am

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Neal Patrick Harris » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:14 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:For firms that ask for an X-page writing sample, do we just print off the first X pages of our brief, or the cover page and the discussion section? I can't imagine they want to read our index and facts section. (I think there was an email from OCS about this particular point, but I can't remember what I did with it.)


If a memo covers two different questions, cut one out.

Delete less important paragraphs of the brief, etc.


Just follow directions and you should be okay. Writing samples are largely flame.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby 2014 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:43 pm

I used my fall memo to avoid the effort of cutting my brief down.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:58 pm

Have a CB for which the final interview is 30 minutes with the recruiting coordinator. Is this conventional? I have no idea what to expect from that one.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:179.5 here, didnt get it, so higher than that (not surprisingly)!

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know what the grade on cut off was? Or have any guesses?


Sorry man, you just missed it. I graded on with 180.03. (And yes, I'm sure I graded on cause that writing entry sucked.)

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby 2014 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have a CB for which the final interview is 30 minutes with the recruiting coordinator. Is this conventional? I have no idea what to expect from that one.

I did a couple of these. Basically this is your chance to get the spiel about and ask about the summer program instead of the practice. They will ask about your resume too usually like a normal interview. Have questions ready.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:57 pm

This might be putting the cart way before the horse, so I apologize. But I have a callback with a firm next week with an office that will not be coming to OCI. However I will also be interviewing with the firm's Chicago office come OCI. Say I get an offer, or even if I don't, I'm wondering if that will hurt my chances with the Chicago office. Just curious if anyone had this experience or what an alum's reaction would be. I would be super happy to end up at either one though.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Neal Patrick Harris » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This might be putting the cart way before the horse, so I apologize. But I have a callback with a firm next week with an office that will not be coming to OCI. However I will also be interviewing with the firm's Chicago office come OCI. Say I get an offer, or even if I don't, I'm wondering if that will hurt my chances with the Chicago office. Just curious if anyone had this experience or what an alum's reaction would be. I would be super happy to end up at either one though.



Depends on firm. Say positive things about both cities in your interviews and don't lie about preferences. If firm is more important than location, say that.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:41 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
But seriously, bring a resume and transcript for each firm for the day and like 1 writing sample and references list.


I need to bring a references list? Is this one of those things that's good to have for the random chance that someone asks, or is this a relatively common request? Nobody asked on symplicity so I wasn't planning on bringing one.....

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
But seriously, bring a resume and transcript for each firm for the day and like 1 writing sample and references list.


I need to bring a references list? Is this one of those things that's good to have for the random chance that someone asks, or is this a relatively common request? Nobody asked on symplicity so I wasn't planning on bringing one.....


The e-mail we got from OCI says to bring one. I've been asked for it at callbacks but not sure if it's common at screeners or not.

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Neal Patrick Harris » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
But seriously, bring a resume and transcript for each firm for the day and like 1 writing sample and references list.


I need to bring a references list? Is this one of those things that's good to have for the random chance that someone asks, or is this a relatively common request? Nobody asked on symplicity so I wasn't planning on bringing one.....


It's very rare. Which is why you should only print one. But it's better to be prepared (even if the only benefit is knowing you're prepared).

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Re: UChicago OCI Alums Answering Questions About the Job Hunt

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:38 pm

I hope OCI is going well for all of our C/O 2016 friends.

The library just published this page aggregating a lot of awesome firm research resources it provides.

I would highly recommend the ALM "Legal Intelligence" page, which provides full reports on various facets of the legal industry that are highly relevant both for interview prep and for choosing a firm.

In particular, I like the "Corporate Representations (Who Counsels Who)" list -- which tells you which firms represent which clients. This is amazing information to have when walking into an interview -- ie, "I'd love to work for firm X because of your representations of A, B and C clients, all of who's business models/capital structures/litigation challenges/etc. I find extremely compelling."

It's obviously also helpful when choosing a firm -- would you prefer to rep issuers or underwriters? PE firms or target companies? Activists or boards?
With this type of list, you can decide where to go based on the clients you'll work for.

Good luck!




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