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More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Yanky91 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Hey everyone. A while back I read an article on the web that said there will be more open/available full time legal jobs than law graduates around the time a lot of us graduate (2017 I think). Is this true? Is this good news? Has anyone read this article, or heard something similar? Just want to hear (or better yet read) your thoughts. Thanks

Here is a similar article: http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/w ... uates-2016

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby carmensandiego » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:37 pm

Yanky91 wrote:Hey everyone. A while back I read an article on the web that said there will be more open/available full time legal jobs than law graduates around the time a lot of us graduate (2017 I think). Is this true? Is this good news? Has anyone read this article, or heard something similar? Just want to hear (or better yet read) your thoughts. Thanks

Here is a similar article: http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/w ... uates-2016


That would be wonderful news! Seems legit, but who knows. Can anyone else validate this? I know currently the market is the opposite but with enrollment the lowest in decades, who knows?

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Borhas » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:41 pm

It's good news that law school enrollment is down

It's good news that entry level employment has remained at least steady

But, all those predictions don't take into account the excess labor supply from previous graduating classes. Those people don't just disappear from the legal labor market.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:23 am

Yeah, count me as one of those people who will try to lateral in.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby t-14orbust » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:32 am

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:38 am

t-14orbust wrote:Say whaaat


My dick is bigger than yours! /korn

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Nova » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:19 am

kappycaft1 wrote:I read the bolded part like 10 times... am I crazy, or are they saying the opposite of what they meant to write?

theyre saying the opposite of what they meant to write. lol

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Postby 20141023 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:04 am

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby NYstate » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:55 am

What has consistently angered me about this focus on the drop in applications making this a great time to apply, is that no one ever examines why applications are dropping. No one focuses on the fact that law school admissions were artificially inflated based on false employment data.

Applications are dropping because the reality of legal hiring was misrepresented by schools for decades. Now the truth is being made clear by LST and the pressure they have applied to schools, people understand that for most applicants law is a hugely expensive gamble.

I don't understand how this could possibly be a better time for most applicants when the cost is absurd and the jobs are so limited. Maybe for someone who can get a T6 or a great scholarship when they wouldn't otherwise it is a good thing- but this is probably a tiny percentage of total applicants.

If you want to read about the future of legal employment read the inside the law school scam posts on the bls (bureau of labor standards) numbers. Those numbers are about 20,000 new jobs a year - and that includes temporary and part-time jobs. Those numbers also may overestimate the number of lawyers who are going to retire.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:25 pm

But, all those predictions don't take into account the excess labor supply from previous graduating classes. Those people don't just disappear from the legal labor market.


They're not meant to. The prediction is that "there will be more full time legal jobs than law graduates." It's not making a prediction about previous graduating classes.

(Edit: The prediction as I read it from the OP; I didn't read the article)

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby NYstate » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:33 pm

zweitbester wrote:
But, all those predictions don't take into account the excess labor supply from previous graduating classes. Those people don't just disappear from the legal labor market.


They're not meant to. The prediction is that "there will be more full time legal jobs than law graduates." It's not making a prediction about previous graduating classes.

(Edit: The prediction as I read it from the OP; I didn't read the article)


The problem is that by conflating number of jobs with number of grads is that it sounds like there will be a job for most, if not all grads. But anyone with half a brain knows that is not the case and is simply misleading.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:43 pm

NYstate wrote:
zweitbester wrote:
But, all those predictions don't take into account the excess labor supply from previous graduating classes. Those people don't just disappear from the legal labor market.


They're not meant to. The prediction is that "there will be more full time legal jobs than law graduates." It's not making a prediction about previous graduating classes.

(Edit: The prediction as I read it from the OP; I didn't read the article)


The problem is that by conflating number of jobs with number of grads is that it sounds like there will be a job for most, if not all grads. But anyone with half a brain knows that is not the case and is simply misleading.


Sure, I wasn't saying that the article isn't stupid.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:48 pm

Also this ignores the fact that most legal jobs blow small cock. Getting a job isn't a success.

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:48 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Also this ignores the fact that most legal jobs blow small cock. Getting a job isn't a success.


Maybe it is ITE?

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Re: More jobs than graduates in 2016/2017...?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:50 pm

zweitbester wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Also this ignores the fact that most legal jobs blow small cock. Getting a job isn't a success.


Maybe it is ITE?


Maybe, but the vast majority of law jobs are shittier than the person could have gotten without a law degree, without wasting three years, and without debt.




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