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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby rickgrimes69 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:21 pm

BlueLotus wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.


same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.


Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:13 pm

rickgrimes69 wrote:
BlueLotus wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.


same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.


Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.


yeah, he's pretty much given up on wv. too insular of a market. hell, you need ties to get to philly or atlanta.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby brotherdarkness » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:26 am

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:52 pm

worldtraveler wrote:
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worldtraveler wrote:Is this non-profit doing anything remotely related to legal work? If it was he should just ask like that was his plan all along.


sorta. it's a historical preservation law -related nonprofit.

also, i'd hardly say he missed the "2L boat"...believe it or not, public interest hiring is still in full swing. so are small firms.



public interest 2L hiring has barely even started. I haven't even reviewed resumes yet and won't be done for another month or two.

Just stress the legal aspects of the non-profit on the resume. Honestly if I were reviewing his resume I would view it as a plus. He should get involved in clinics/volunteer work regardless.

It's also not entirely unheard of to not have a summer legal job. I had a couple friends who didn't do one (they were weirdos who did their own thing in law school). There are people who just don't find anything; rare, but it happens. In PI it's not a complete deal breaker but honestly that person would get grilled extra hard in an interview because I would want to know why that person didn't have offers and also probably rely on their references more.


what happened to the "weirdos" postgrad? did the find a FTLT jerb?

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby worldtraveler » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:30 pm

BlueLotus wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:
BlueLotus wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:Is this non-profit doing anything remotely related to legal work? If it was he should just ask like that was his plan all along.


sorta. it's a historical preservation law -related nonprofit.

also, i'd hardly say he missed the "2L boat"...believe it or not, public interest hiring is still in full swing. so are small firms.



public interest 2L hiring has barely even started. I haven't even reviewed resumes yet and won't be done for another month or two.

Just stress the legal aspects of the non-profit on the resume. Honestly if I were reviewing his resume I would view it as a plus. He should get involved in clinics/volunteer work regardless.

It's also not entirely unheard of to not have a summer legal job. I had a couple friends who didn't do one (they were weirdos who did their own thing in law school). There are people who just don't find anything; rare, but it happens. In PI it's not a complete deal breaker but honestly that person would get grilled extra hard in an interview because I would want to know why that person didn't have offers and also probably rely on their references more.


what happened to the "weirdos" postgrad? did the find a FTLT jerb?


They did but they also went to a T10 and either had stellar grades, connections, or both, so I think it was more of that situation enabled them to be weirdos when it came to job searching.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:32 pm

were they JD required jerbs? or at least JD advantage?

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby sd5289 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:15 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.


Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:30 pm

sd5289 wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.


Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).


yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby rickgrimes69 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:10 am

BlueLotus wrote:
sd5289 wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.


Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).


yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.


Wasn't his whole schtick about "bringing civilization to the poor, uneducated masses of WVa"? Yeah, that'll play well in Peoria.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:52 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:
BlueLotus wrote:
sd5289 wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:You need ties to get anywhere. I was grilled about why I wanted NY, despite the TLS manta of not needing ties for NY.


Huh? Who said that? Granted I'm never on TLS unless it's winter break or that small bit of time in between spring finals and summer job, but I live here and am from here, and have been asked that question in interviews. Granted, for me it quickly moves to "why THIS office," but still, that was bad advice.

EDIT: oh, and to answer the original question, if the dude is gunning for PI, he needs to be able to spin his 1L (non)experience into something relevant to whatever little specific sector he's going for (no 1L's, "public interest law" is not an actual career goal).


yeah, unfortunately, his goal is rather amorphous--i.e. ed reform. he eventually wants to run for office.


Wasn't his whole schtick about "bringing civilization to the poor, uneducated masses of WVa"? Yeah, that'll play well in Peoria.


he was interested in ed reform in wv, not in those words, but in a general sense, yes...and then the brick walls happened, predictably.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby stillwater » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:26 pm

that always plays well: i am here to civilize you and your savage brethren.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:25 pm

Update: he is still not jerbed for the summer. :|

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby sd5289 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:27 am

BlueLotus wrote:Update: he is still not jerbed for the summer. :|


I overheard a few 2LOL's mentioning they were still not jerbed for this summer a few days ago. I think I'd be having a meltdown at this point if I was in their shoes.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby rad lulz » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:42 am

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:28 pm

Yeah, I told him to just start calling up legal aid places and asking if they're taking volunteers for the summer.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby worldtraveler » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:08 pm

Has he applied to things or just waited until now?

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby hichvichwoh » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:11 am

well, I didn't get my 1L gig until the end of April, but i was pretty much the last person among my friends to find something. I'm sure you've already done this, but you need to tell your friend that he cannot afford to be selective about anything at this point.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:25 am

worldtraveler wrote:Has he applied to things or just waited until now?


he has not applied to places at all.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:47 pm

Perhaps I should change the title to " Effect of no 1L AND 2L Summer Jerb". -__-

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:54 pm

This person just doesn't really want to be a lawyer.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:14 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:This person just doesn't really want to be a lawyer.


I've pretty much given up on him. I hand-picked a jerb for him last summer through connections and he did not take it. :|

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby ymmv » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:52 am

BlueLotus wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:
BlueLotus wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:Anybody else think this is the same guy that was gunning for BIGWESTVIRGINIAPUBLICINTEREST with no ties to the region?

Can't find the link atm but that thread was a goldmine.


same guy, lol.

eta: if you're from wv, sorry if i offended you by calling it a "podunk, flyover state", rick.


Not from there so no offense taken. I'm just lol'ing at how predictable that outcome was.


yeah, he's pretty much given up on wv. too insular of a market. hell, you need ties to get to philly or atlanta.


Why the fuck would anyone want to target WV unless they had really compelling ties anyway.

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Re: Effect of no 1L summer job?

Postby BlueLotus » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:32 am

^he needs to "civilize" those toothless hillbillies!




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