Top Law Schools

2014 wrote:Somebody posted this on another thread and it is clearly Cravath though they called it "A NYC V10" instead:

95 total

3 Yale
0 Stanford
*18 Harvard
----21 out of 95
*17 Columbia
8 NYU
8 Chicago
----54 out of 95
1 Penn
5 Michigan
2 Virginia
----62 out of 95
1 Berkeley
1 Duke
2 Northwestern
1 Cornell
7 Gtown
----74 out of 95
4 Texas


Idk what the other schools are obviously.

Michigan's doing well, at least better than Yale and Stanford.

NOBODY ELSE ?? Surprised that the info isn't coming out faster. Or are the firms releasing it later this year?

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These numbers aren't all final. I know at least one of the firms mentioned above is still considering applicants for the summer.

Kirkland Chicago:

Harvard: 3
UChicago: 17
Northwestern: 13
Virginia: 1
Cornell: 1
Notre Dame: 1
Wash U: 1
Ohio State: 1
Chicago-Kent: 1
U of I: 1
U of Minnesota: 1
Stanford: 1
Indiana--Bloomington: 1

Cadwalader:

NYC, DC, Charlotte: 38

Columbia: 6
NYU: 5
UVA: 4
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Cornell: 3
Harvard: 2
WUSTL: 2
Penn: 2
Duke: 2
Berkeley: 1
Stanford: 1
U. South Carolina: 1
Pace: 1
BC: 1
UNC: 1

Mayer Brown (All Offices)

Yale 0
Harvard 11
Stanford 2
Columbia 3
Chicago 9
NYU 5
UPenn 1
UVA 2
Berkeley 2
Michigan 12
Duke 2
Northwestern 6
Cornell 0
Georgetown 2
UT 1
Vanderbilt 1
UCLA 1
Minnesota 1
Notre Dame 1
Iowa 1
Wisconsin 1
North Carolina 2
DePaul 1
John Marshall 1
Houston 1
St. John's 1
Loyola 1
Illinois 2
Brooklyn 1
Syracuse 1
Fordham 1
Wake Forest 1

Total 77

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Anonymous User wrote:Cadwalader:

NYC, DC, Charlotte: 38

Columbia: 6
NYU: 5
UVA: 4
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Cornell: 3
Harvard: 2
WUSTL: 2
Penn: 2
Duke: 2
Berkeley: 1
Stanford: 1
U. South Carolina: 1
Pace: 1
BC: 1
UNC: 1

That's across ALL offices? Oh, man, that a pitifully small class size. What the Hell happended to them?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Cadwalader:

NYC, DC, Charlotte: 38

Columbia: 6
NYU: 5
UVA: 4
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Cornell: 3
Harvard: 2
WUSTL: 2
Penn: 2
Duke: 2
Berkeley: 1
Stanford: 1
U. South Carolina: 1
Pace: 1
BC: 1
UNC: 1

That's across ALL offices? Oh, man, that a pitifully small class size. What the Hell happended to them?

This is the point I was making in another thread. Class sizes remain small across the board compared to pre- crash levels. So where are all the jobs that people are using to claim that biglaw hiring is returning? Look at the numbers in this thread.

NYstate wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Cadwalader:

NYC, DC, Charlotte: 38

Columbia: 6
NYU: 5
UVA: 4
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Cornell: 3
Harvard: 2
WUSTL: 2
Penn: 2
Duke: 2
Berkeley: 1
Stanford: 1
U. South Carolina: 1
Pace: 1
BC: 1
UNC: 1

That's across ALL offices? Oh, man, that a pitifully small class size. What the Hell happended to them?

This is the point I was making in another thread. Class sizes remain small across the board compared to pre- crash levels. So where are all the jobs that people are using to claim that biglaw hiring is returning? Look at the numbers in this thread.

TBF, I think those claims (though they may be misconstrued as something else) are really referring to the V10 / firms that are more selective than V10. What I think has changed (and this thread shines light on this, to a certain extent) is that when the V10-type firms started hiring close to pre-2008 levels, they started focusing even more exclusively on T14 schools. That's how we're seeing a rebound in OCI hiring at the t14, without seeing a lot of non-V10ish class sizes coming even close to pre-2008 levels.

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland Chicago:

Harvard: 3
UChicago: 17
Northwestern: 13
Virginia: 1
Cornell: 1
Notre Dame: 1
Wash U: 1
Ohio State: 1
Chicago-Kent: 1
U of I: 1
U of Minnesota: 1
Stanford: 1
Indiana--Bloomington: 1

You sure this is accurate for Chicago? That 17 number for UChi makes sense firm-wide, but I don't think we have that many going to the Chicago office alone. I thought more on the order of 8-10.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Cadwalader:

NYC, DC, Charlotte: 38

Columbia: 6
NYU: 5
UVA: 4
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Cornell: 3
Harvard: 2
WUSTL: 2
Penn: 2
Duke: 2
Berkeley: 1
Stanford: 1
U. South Carolina: 1
Pace: 1
BC: 1
UNC: 1

That's across ALL offices? Oh, man, that a pitifully small class size. What the Hell happended to them?

I don't think it's terribly small. I'm sure you'll see with NALP that many others have really cut down. In my interview they hoped for 39 or so and got that. It's also biggest class they've had in several years.

NYstate wrote: This is the point I was making in another thread. Class sizes remain small across the board compared to pre- crash levels. So where are all the jobs that people are using to claim that biglaw hiring is returning? Look at the numbers in this thread.

No one is saying that biglaw hiring is returning to boom times. These numbers just show that the sky isn't falling. Biglaw has always been extraordinarily difficult to obtain for most law students and it remains that way.

Tiago Splitter wrote:

NYstate wrote: This is the point I was making in another thread. Class sizes remain small across the board compared to pre- crash levels. So where are all the jobs that people are using to claim that biglaw hiring is returning? Look at the numbers in this thread.

No one is saying that biglaw hiring is returning to boom times. These numbers just show that the sky isn't falling. Biglaw has always been extraordinarily difficult to obtain for most law students and it remains that way.

At least in NYC, CLS seems to have cleaned up, but of course until the stats come out it's too early to tell.

gchatbrah wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland Chicago:

Harvard: 3
UChicago: 17
Northwestern: 13
Virginia: 1
Cornell: 1
Notre Dame: 1
Wash U: 1
Ohio State: 1
Chicago-Kent: 1
U of I: 1
U of Minnesota: 1
Stanford: 1
Indiana--Bloomington: 1

You sure this is accurate for Chicago? That 17 number for UChi makes sense firm-wide, but I don't think we have that many going to the Chicago office alone. I thought more on the order of 8-10.

It's accurate lol

E- I was not the anon, I just know that we are sending that many to K&E Chi

Paul, Weiss NY

Cornell: 2
NYU: 10
Columbia: 11
Yale: 12
Michigan: 3
Berkeley: 1
Chicago: 1
Duke: 2
UPenn: 5
Harvard: 6
Stanford: 1
Virgina: 1
GULC: 1

University of Toronto: 6
McGill: 3
Howard: 1
George Washington: 1
Texas: 1
UC Irvine: 1
Fordham: 1
Brooklyn: 3
Cardozo: 2
WUSTL: 1
St. Johns: 2

Anonymous User wrote:Paul, Weiss NY

Cornell: 2
NYU: 10
Columbia: 11
Yale: 12
Michigan: 3
Berkeley: 1
Chicago: 1
Duke: 2
UPenn: 5
Harvard: 6
Stanford: 1
Virgina: 1
GULC: 1

University of Toronto: 6
McGill: 3
Howard: 1
George Washington: 1
Texas: 1
UC Irvine: 1
Fordham: 1
Brooklyn: 3
Cardozo: 2
WUSTL: 1
St. Johns: 2

huh. 12 from Yale seems weirdly high.

2014 wrote:

gchatbrah wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland Chicago:

Harvard: 3
UChicago: 17
Northwestern: 13
Virginia: 1
Cornell: 1
Notre Dame: 1
Wash U: 1
Ohio State: 1
Chicago-Kent: 1
U of I: 1
U of Minnesota: 1
Stanford: 1
Indiana--Bloomington: 1

You sure this is accurate for Chicago? That 17 number for UChi makes sense firm-wide, but I don't think we have that many going to the Chicago office alone. I thought more on the order of 8-10.

It's accurate lol

E- I was not the anon, I just know that we are sending that many to K&E Chi

Nuts -- go us!

There's seems to be some non-T50 or even T100 schools where people seem to be landing BigLaw jobs... Kind of interesting...

SouthernGent wrote:There's seems to be some non-T50 or even T100 schools where people seem to be landing BigLaw jobs... Kind of interesting...

Yeah, but the real white-shoe firms will still stick with T14 or at least T20. Why not? We're damn cheap in this economy.

Anonymous User wrote:

SouthernGent wrote:There's seems to be some non-T50 or even T100 schools where people seem to be landing BigLaw jobs... Kind of interesting...

Yeah, but the real white-shoe firms will still stick with T14 or at least T20. Why not? We're damn cheap in this economy.

Kind of runs contrary to the S&C class distribution posted ITT...

zweitbester wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

SouthernGent wrote:There's seems to be some non-T50 or even T100 schools where people seem to be landing BigLaw jobs... Kind of interesting...

Yeah, but the real white-shoe firms will still stick with T14 or at least T20. Why not? We're damn cheap in this economy.

Kind of runs contrary to the S&C class distribution posted ITT...

S&C? What do ya mean? Unless I'm county wrong, out of 141, only about 11 are out of the T20, only 16 out of the T14. Clearly 90%+ are elite schools. Still, my hat's off to the non-T20's. They must have busted their himps to get in (more than the rest).....kudos to them.

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Anonymous User wrote:

zweitbester wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

SouthernGent wrote:There's seems to be some non-T50 or even T100 schools where people seem to be landing BigLaw jobs... Kind of interesting...

Yeah, but the real white-shoe firms will still stick with T14 or at least T20. Why not? We're damn cheap in this economy.

Kind of runs contrary to the S&C class distribution posted ITT...

S&C? What do ya mean? Unless I'm county wrong, out of 141, only about 11 are out of the T20, only 16 out of the T14. Clearly 90%+ are elite schools. Still, my hat's off to the non-T20's. They must have busted their himps to get in (more than the rest).....kudos to them.

So you really meant to say that the white shoe firms stick to top 20 schools with some exceptions? First, that's kind of an arbitrary line to draw. Second, it's a useless statement.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Paul, Weiss NY

Cornell: 2
NYU: 10
Columbia: 11
Yale: 12
Michigan: 3
Berkeley: 1
Chicago: 1
Duke: 2
UPenn: 5
Harvard: 6
Stanford: 1
Virgina: 1
GULC: 1

University of Toronto: 6
McGill: 3
Howard: 1
George Washington: 1
Texas: 1
UC Irvine: 1
Fordham: 1
Brooklyn: 3
Cardozo: 2
WUSTL: 1
St. Johns: 2

huh. 12 from Yale seems weirdly high.

Why do YLS students like PW so much?