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thesealocust
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Re: Grade Drops

Postby thesealocust » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:39 pm

My career services office provided data actually.

GPA unchanged or improved: 98% offer rate nationwide
GPA down less than 5%: 82% offer rate nationwide
GPA down 5% to 10%: 58% offer rate nationwide
GPA down 10% to 15%: 35% offer rate nationwide
GPA down more than 15%: 21% offer rate nationwide

The one outlier was Gibson Dunn, for whom the following data was provided:

GPA improved 5% or more: 100% offer rate
GPA improved 5% or less or unchanged: 89% offer rate
GPA down less than 5%: 14% offer rate
GPA down 5% to 10%: 0% offer rate
GPA down 10% to 15%: 0% offer rate
GPA down more than 15%: 0% offer rate

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:45 pm

Thanks. This information is very valuable.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby wiz » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:46 pm

Awesome post as usual, thesealocust.

And fuck, I need to get back on the wagon next semester.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby ph14 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:47 pm

wiz wrote:Awesome post as usual, thesealocust.

And fuck, I need to get back on the wagon next semester.


He's trolling, FYI.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby wiz » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:48 pm

ph14 wrote:
wiz wrote:Awesome post as usual, thesealocust.

And fuck, I need to get back on the wagon next semester.


He's trolling, FYI.


Haha, I'm an idiot. The GDC thing made it believable for me. I guess I should've read the first page first.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby ph14 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:49 pm

wiz wrote:
ph14 wrote:
wiz wrote:Awesome post as usual, thesealocust.

And fuck, I need to get back on the wagon next semester.


He's trolling, FYI.


Haha, I'm an idiot. The GDC thing made it believable for me. I guess I should've read the first page first.


The GDC thing should've made it more unbelievable to you, lol.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby wiz » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:59 pm

ph14 wrote:
wiz wrote:
ph14 wrote:
wiz wrote:Awesome post as usual, thesealocust.

And fuck, I need to get back on the wagon next semester.


He's trolling, FYI.


Haha, I'm an idiot. The GDC thing made it believable for me. I guess I should've read the first page first.


The GDC thing should've made it more unbelievable to you, lol.


Good point. I should probs retire and go back to poasting anon.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:12 pm

I went from somewhere in between top 5-10% after 1L at a T10 to top third at graduation and had no problem. Also, I did better 3L than 2L so the grade drop would look even more extreme when the offer decision came up.

I have no idea if my transcript even got checked

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:34 pm

thesealocust wrote:My career services office provided data actually.

GPA unchanged or improved: 98% offer rate nationwide
GPA down less than 5%: 82% offer rate nationwide
GPA down 5% to 10%: 58% offer rate nationwide
GPA down 10% to 15%: 35% offer rate nationwide
GPA down more than 15%: 21% offer rate nationwide

The one outlier was Gibson Dunn, for whom the following data was provided:

GPA improved 5% or more: 100% offer rate
GPA improved 5% or less or unchanged: 89% offer rate
GPA down less than 5%: 14% offer rate
GPA down 5% to 10%: 0% offer rate
GPA down 10% to 15%: 0% offer rate
GPA down more than 15%: 0% offer rate


I'm so screwed. FML.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby brotherdarkness » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:55 am

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby 09042014 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:15 am

It's not trolling if the fish just jumps into your boat.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby aces » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:15 pm

Desert Fox wrote:It's not trolling if the fish just jumps into your boat.

No, then it just becomes cruel.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby brotherdarkness » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:11 pm

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby paulinaporizkova » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:52 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:It's not trolling if the fish just jumps into your boat.


Well, there's always stuff like this to stoke the fire...

Ludovico Technique wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:What happened during your summer to get dat no offer. You weren't at the WS were you?


You've already told me while I was anonymous that its because I must have ass burgers. Official excuse was grades/one bad assignment. Can read more here if you're interested:
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ur fannin the shit out of these flames

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby jacksonmead » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:22 pm

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this is fantastic. LOL at early checkout.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby brotherdarkness » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:29 pm

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:Any anecdotal evidence as to tolerable grade drops for 2L at T20 would be appreciated. I'm SAing next summer with a V50 in a secondary market. I was at median (~3.3X). If I keep 2L grades above 3.0, I should be okay, right?

Maybe it's just a Penn thing, but I thought every top lawl skool gives no fucks whether upper-level professors follow the 1L curve (though some individual ones choose to do so anyway, usually for the doctrinal classes like admin and pro rep).

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby brotherdarkness » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:59 am

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby Liam » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:59 pm

HeavenWood wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any anecdotal evidence as to tolerable grade drops for 2L at T20 would be appreciated. I'm SAing next summer with a V50 in a secondary market. I was at median (~3.3X). If I keep 2L grades above 3.0, I should be okay, right?

Maybe it's just a Penn thing, but I thought every top lawl skool gives no fucks whether upper-level professors follow the 1L curve (though some individual ones choose to do so anyway, usually for the doctrinal classes like admin and pro rep).


At Georgetown there's still a "mandatory" curve for doctrinal classes above a certain size, but I believe professors have wiggle room on the margins if they want to hand out an extra few A's or A-'s.

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:05 pm

How much does 1 below median grade screw you if you had 0 1L year, and your firm doesn't have a 100% offer rate?

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Re: Grade Drops

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:38 am

Anonymous User wrote:How much does 1 below median grade screw you if you had 0 1L year, and your firm doesn't have a 100% offer rate?


It's game over. One the bar examiners find out a law school grade dropped you'll never be able to get sworn in anyway.




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