Anonymous User wrote:Does your firm hire give offers to 2L SA's like biglaw firms, or do they hire differently? In the secondary market I'm targeting, from what I know the firms only hire 3L's, people who are finishing clerkships, and laterals. Hiring two years out isn't generally feasible for them, I guess. The firms are between 50-100 attorneys. If this is like your market, can you give me any advice as to how to secure an offer earlier? My CSO said just to ask them if they would consider extending an offer earlier than they usually would, but that just sounds strange. I'm planning on doing my 1L summer split between a couple firms in this market and would like to return for 2L, but if there's no chance of getting an offer, I might end up targeting other markets so that I at least can have an offer after 2L summer. Then I guess I could try and get hired as a 3L and just renege on the other offer. That said, I'd rather not have to wait around my entire 3L year to figure out where I'm going to be working after graduation if I can help it. Any advice?
Also, any way to find out what the salary is like? They don't post it publicly and the only publication I've been able to find was from quite a few years ago.
Anon #2 - my current firm frequently offers 2L SAs as a biglaw firm might. My situation was different, somewhat more similar to a 3L OCI offer, but on a different timeline for various reasons. The other firm where I was offered has no SA program, and hiring is erratic and entirely dependant on shorter-term needs.
At many firms, particularly <100 attorneys, it's damn near impossible to predict needs beyond a few months out. If you have a good relationship with a decision making partner, then you can always ask about the full time offer, but there is probably little that can be done about speeding it up.
As for finding salary data, all you can really do is use old data and get a feel for what the market bears for mid-sized firms. Associate compensation at firms <100 attorneys can vary (I have heard everything from 60k-130k), and unfortunately they don't release much data. If you have an associate you feel close to, you may be able to discuss it with him/her.