Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:16 pm

School: MVPB
Market(s): NYC, LA, and secondary in Pacific Northwest
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: K-JD
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 16 OCI
Callbacks received: 3; 2 OCI and 1 Mass Mail
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 - V20
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None from OCI, unknown number from mass-mailing
Thank-you notes sent: No

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:24 am

School: T30
Market(s): NYC, DC, Boston
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: Several years
IP background: Yes (non EE/CS)
Anything else that might have an impact? Good interviewer
Screening Interviews: 19
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 3: V30, V60, V100
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 1-2
Thank-you notes sent: Sent to about 1/2 of them.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:51 am

School: TT
Market(s): Mid-Atlantic
Approximate class rank: Top 5%
Law review: Yes, primary
Work experience: Yes, one year
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 15 (OCI), 6 (mass mail)
Callbacks received: 5 (OCI), 2 (mass mail)
Callbacks accepted: 7
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (OCI), non-Vault
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? A lot
Thank-you notes sent: No

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:19 pm

School: T20
Market(s): Mid-West Secondary
Approximate class rank: Top 20%
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: One year
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 25 (OCI)
Callbacks received: 8
Callbacks accepted: 8
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (OCI), V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None from call-backs, 5 or 6 from OCI
Thank-you notes sent: Not from OCI, to most from call-backs unless they said they didn't want thank you notes.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:32 pm

School: CCN
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 10%-ish
Law review: Yeah
Work experience: Semi-interesting but not extensive.
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? 2 year IR M.A. pre-law school.
Screening Interviews: 20
Callbacks received: 15 --- kind of unpredictable. Got dinged from WLRK and some DC firms (expected), but also from two large V15s (unexpected).
Callbacks accepted: 6 (to clarify, I accepted all callbacks and scheduled immediately, but got two offers within first week of interviewing and proceeded to cancel most callbacks).
Offers w/vault ranges: 6 (3 V5, 3 V10)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? n/a
Thank-you notes sent: No. Don't do that.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:51 am

School: Lower T14
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: slightly below median
Law review: Secondary journal
Work experience: No
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 25
Callbacks received: 7
Callbacks accepted: 7
Offers w/vault ranges: 2, V50, V100
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? From screeners? Don't even know.
Thank-you notes sent: Yes.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:17 pm

School: MVP
Market(s): NYC, DC
Approximate class rank: Transfer
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: No
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Decent summer, State SC and 1L SA
Screening Interviews: 25
Callbacks received: 3
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (reputable boutiques in DC)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? From screeners? Don't even know.
Thank-you notes sent: Variably for screeners, but yes at callbacks.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:47 am

School: CCN
Market(s): Chicago, Ohio
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: 2 yrs unimpressive
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 20
Callbacks received: 4
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, Columbus NLJ 250
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Withdrew from 1 post-CB
Thank-you notes sent: To everyone after every CB, not for screeners

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:59 am

Wasn't able to input my data on Google drive, but:

School: MVP
Market(s): DC
Approximate class rank: Top 5%
Law review: Yes
Work experience: Yes (1 year, plus internship/leadership in UG)
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 23
Callbacks received: 13
Callbacks accepted: 4 (I cancelled the remaining callbacks)
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 V10, 1 V50 (3 total)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? One, although this wasn't unique to me; the firm seemed disorganized in general.
Thank-you notes sent: No

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Wasn't able to input my data on Google drive, but:

Did it say what the issue was? Is anybody else having issues?

Side note: sadly there seem to be a lot fewer responses this year than last. So far 140 people have responded this year and at this time last year there were over 300 people who had responded.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:10 am

bk1 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Wasn't able to input my data on Google drive, but:

Did it say what the issue was? Is anybody else having issues?

Side note: sadly there seem to be a lot fewer responses this year than last. So far 140 people have responded this year and at this time last year there were over 300 people who had responded.

Response to SideNote: Maybe this is due to self-selection? Because it's expected that people who were successful at getting offers are more likely to report than those who struck out (or nearly did), could the low turnout mean that this cycle was worst than last year? I know that in case, as a median at lower T14, the experience was much more brutal than I expected, and I'm glad I got out alive.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby bk1 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:14 am

Anonymous User wrote:maybe this is due to self-selection? Because it's expected that people who were successful at getting offers are more likely to report than those who struck out (or nearly did), could the low turnout mean that this cycle was worst than last year? I know that in case, as a median at lower T14, the experience was much more brutal than I expected, and I'm glad I got out alive.

I doubt that this cycle is worse enough to cause a 50% drop (if it's appreciably worse at all). My suspicion is that there are just fewer TLSers (or the TLSers that are here are less engaged) compared to last cycle.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:19 pm

School: MVP
Market(s): NYC, SV
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Secondary journal
Work experience: 3 years
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? 1L SA, connections, C+ in a 1L class
Screening Interviews: 23 through OCI, 1 through career services
Callbacks received: 3 (2 NYC, 1 SV)
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, V100.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None.
Thank-you notes sent: Yes.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:44 pm

School: TT
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 15-20%
Law review: n/a
Work experience: 0 years
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? URM
Screening Interviews: 7 OCI, 1 Resume Collect, 13 NEBLSA Job Fair
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, V50.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None.
Thank-you notes sent: Ironically sent these to all but the last callback, which ended up being the lone offer (this was from the resume collect; very unorthodox way into BigLaw)

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:07 pm

School: T25
Market(s): Midwest
Approximate class rank: Slightly above median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: K-JD
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Home state ties for many of CBs. Elite (non-ivy) UG. Used and would recommend interviewing tips from Guerilla Tactics book.
Screening Interviews: 8 (1 mass mail)
Callbacks received: 9 (6 mass mail)
Callbacks accepted: 9
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, V70 secondary
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2
Thank-you notes sent: 2 CBs, neither of which led to offers

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:54 pm

School: T14
Market(s): Northeast, NYC
Approximate class rank: bottom third
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: K-JD
IP background: Weak background
Anything else that might have an impact? Yes but a description might out me.
Screening Interviews: 24
Callbacks received: 7 (2 mass mail)
Callbacks accepted: 7
Offers w/vault ranges: 3. 2 top firms in small secondary markets; 1 selective boutique in secondary market
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 1
Thank-you notes sent: first two CBs. Rejected from one, offer from the other

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:37 pm

School: MVPB
Market(s): SF, NY
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Secondary journal
Work experience: 5 yrs, management experience, good interviewer
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Foreign languages
Screening Interviews: 23 through OCI
Callbacks received: 15
Callbacks accepted: 12
Offers w/vault ranges: 8 (3 in SF, 5 in NYC), V5-V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 1
Thank-you notes sent: Yes

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:55 pm

School: Lower T14
Market(s): NYC/London
Approximate class rank: Top 20%
Law review: Main Journal
Work experience: K-JD (worked through at firms, though)
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 20 (OCI)
Callbacks received: 5
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 3 in the V20
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Thank-you notes sent: To about half, though i got offers when I sent them and also when I didn't

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby NickDenver1 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:56 pm

bk1 wrote: Side note: sadly there seem to be a lot fewer responses this year than last. So far 140 people have responded this year and at this time last year there were over 300 people who had responded.


C'mon people. Do your civic duty and share, good or bad. Some sad 1L out there doesn't know it yet, but he's going to need those data points!

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:54 am

School: Lower T14
Market(s): DC
Approximate class rank: Top 20%
Law review: Secondary
Work experience: K-JD
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 16 (3 diversity fair, rest OCI)
Callbacks received: 1 (yikes!)
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 in the V15-V30 range
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Thank-you notes sent: Yes
Note to 1Ls: BID NY

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Danger Zone » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:12 pm

NickDenver1 wrote:
bk1 wrote: Side note: sadly there seem to be a lot fewer responses this year than last. So far 140 people have responded this year and at this time last year there were over 300 people who had responded.


C'mon people. Do your civic duty and share, good or bad. Some sad 1L out there doesn't know it yet, but he's going to need those data points!

A lot of people are still looking and probs won't post stats until they either find something or are confident that they've struck out. There's a reason you see few (or no?) posts in here with zero offers.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:33 pm

School: Texas
Market(s): Texas
Approximate class rank: Top 30%
Law review: Secondary journal
Work experience: Several years of legal experience (firm and in-house)
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? 1L V50 SA with offer to return
Screening Interviews: 11
Callbacks received: 10
Callbacks accepted: 6
Offers w/vault ranges: 5; 1 V20, 1 V50, 2 V100, 1 non Vault
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? none
Thank-you notes sent: Some, not all. Didn't seem to make any difference.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Liam » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:15 pm

Danger Zone wrote:
NickDenver1 wrote:
bk1 wrote: Side note: sadly there seem to be a lot fewer responses this year than last. So far 140 people have responded this year and at this time last year there were over 300 people who had responded.


C'mon people. Do your civic duty and share, good or bad. Some sad 1L out there doesn't know it yet, but he's going to need those data points!

A lot of people are still looking and probs won't post stats until they either find something or are confident that they've struck out. There's a reason you see few (or no?) posts in here with zero offers.


Who hasn't figured out yet whether they struck out at OCI. This isn't the "fall recruiting" thread.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby Danger Zone » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:18 pm

Liam wrote:Who hasn't figured out yet whether they struck out at OCI. This isn't the "fall recruiting" thread.

Right, because the survey definitely doesn't ask about "Number of Mass Mailed/Emailed Applications" or "Number of Screening Interviews from Mass Mail/Email" and thereby imply that people also care about results from outside of OCI.

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Re: Fall 2013 - 2L OCI Results

Postby bk1 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:45 pm

DZ's right. The title does say OCI but it really encompasses all of fall law firm recruiting whether that comes from OCI or outside of it.




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