KidStuddi wrote:Many of you seem to be arguing that if effort doesn't correlate 100% with outcomes the result can only be luck, as if the actual work product is irrelevant. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it is simply not the case that anyone who puts in nominal effort, or even very real, maximal effort, and produces poor product is equal to those who succeed...
I use LeBron as an analog here because I think his skill and success and effort are all undeniable, but I think we should give the same respect to the guy struggling to stay on the bench as the 12th man. Making it to the league over the last guy out may be partially attributable to chance, but he sure as shit didn't get to the final cut by accident.
Nobody is saying that. Nobody is saying that hard work is irrelevant or that the result is "only" luck. What we are saying is that people who get biglaw should appreciate that there was a very real possibility that things could have gone differently. That's it.
To use the part of your basketball analogy that actually makes sense, the 12th man (who made the team) and the 13th man (who didn't) could have easily been in opposite positions. The 12th man should be appreciative of the fact that had things gone slightly differently, things that he had no control over (say he instead got virulently ill while trying to make the cut or some other random act of chance), he could just as easily been the 13th man.
This all started in response to gorki's dichotomy of law students (oblivious employeds and depressed unemployeds). To which Icculus responded that no, many employed law students do actually appreciate how much luck can play a factor in getting a job. Your response was essentially that it only mattered at the margins, but I would say that I don't think you appreciate how many people are actually at those margins. There are vast amounts of people every year who get a single offer. All those people could just as easily gotten no offers had things outside of their control gone only slightly differently.
I get it, you and OneMoreLawHopeful cling to the idea that the world is a very meritocratic place (essentially the bootstraps fallacy). It's a comforting thought and the idea that the world isn't like that isn't a very pleasant idea to entertain. But the reality is that the world is far less meritocratic than either of you want to believe.