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Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:18 pm
by Anonymous User
I have a callback with S&S this week, and am wondering if anybody has any intel on why they dropped in the vault rankings (from #23 to #27), and more specifically, the "International" rankings from #3 to #11?

Of course I am not going to be making my decisions based solely on Vault rankings, and from what I understand they are mostly a sham (a la US News). These two caveats notwithstanding, perception is reality and Vault drives a lot of perception (at least for inexperienced law students).

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:47 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:I have a callback with S&S this week, and am wondering if anybody has any intel on why they dropped in the vault rankings (from #23 to #27), and more specifically, the "International" rankings from #3 to #11?

Of course I am not going to be making my decisions based solely on Vault rankings, and from what I understand they are mostly a sham (a la US News). These two caveats notwithstanding, perception is reality and Vault drives a lot of perception (at least for inexperienced law students).

"I know Vault rankings are a sham, but I am REALLY putting some stock in the Vault rankings"

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:52 pm
by p1arnold
Anonymous User wrote:I have a callback with S&S this week, and am wondering if anybody has any intel on why they dropped in the vault rankings (from #23 to #27), and more specifically, the "International" rankings from #3 to #11?

Of course I am not going to be making my decisions based solely on Vault rankings, and from what I understand they are mostly a sham (a la US News). These two caveats notwithstanding, perception is reality and Vault drives a lot of perception (at least for inexperienced law students).


Because they honestly aren't doing too well right now. New leadership is trying to improve the place though: http://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticl ... 0725195139

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:21 pm
by onehellofaride
Thanks for the link to that article. Really interesting that they committed to partnership promotions even through the recession.

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Shearman summer here. Re: Vault international rankings, the firm placed #4 on this year's Law360 Global 20 list, which focuses on more substantive criteria than on just what other law firm associates think: http://www.law360.com/articles/460278/g ... n-sterling

Won't deny that the firm had a tough time during the recession. But have heard informally that revenue is up substantially this year compared to last year; and the summer class sizes have been increasing steadily (including this summer) - take from that what you will. Will remain to be seen if the firm can keep it up.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Another Shearman NY summer here.

It is undeniable that Shearman is no longer a top 5 powerhouse like it was in the 80's and earlier when it was the largest firm in NY. However, the firm has been making major strides in the last 18 months and they are definitely turning things around.

If you have an interest in latin america - specifically capital markets, project finance, and a few others, Shearman is pretty much unbeatable.

Looking at it objectively, it is a highly respected firm with 20 offices world-wide, a long and prestigious history, great clients, a really amazing culture, and generally happy people. Vault rankings can only take you so far. Shearman is a great firm that will open many doors for you in the future. It's a firm that is truly investing in the future, is truly international, and is, in my opinion, a really amazing place. All things considered, I think it is definitely a top 20 firm and it is only going up from here. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

Anonymous User wrote:I have a callback with S&S this week, and am wondering if anybody has any intel on why they dropped in the vault rankings (from #23 to #27), and more specifically, the "International" rankings from #3 to #11?

Of course I am not going to be making my decisions based solely on Vault rankings, and from what I understand they are mostly a sham (a la US News). These two caveats notwithstanding, perception is reality and Vault drives a lot of perception (at least for inexperienced law students).

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 pm
by Anonymous User
Any intel on their SF office? Culture/happiness, quality of the work, integration with the rest of the firm? It's a smaller office so things may be different.

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:32 pm
by Anonymous User
OP here. Got the offer today. Very excited and definitely leaning Shearman. Could any of the current summers or associates post non-anonymously so I can PM you?

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Got the offer today. Very excited and definitely leaning Shearman. Could any of the current summers or associates post non-anonymously so I can PM you?


Did you happen to do the interviews last night? If so, when today did you hear back?

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:18 am
by Anonymous User
Interviewed first thing yesterday morning, not last night.

Re: Shearman & Sterling?

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:44 am
by YOLOcontendere
Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Got the offer today. Very excited and definitely leaning Shearman. Could any of the current summers or associates post non-anonymously so I can PM you?


First Shearman summer here - feel free to PM me.