Reminder: Stop Reading Tea Leaves; Start Mass Mailing

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Liam » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:27 am

Anonymous User wrote:When mass mailing a firm that is not located where my law school is located, do I have to tell them that I will be in that city for a certain week?

I don't really have much money and it would suck for me to fly out and take care of arrangements myself, but if it is necessary, then I've gotta do it.

Or do firms actually invite you for a CB simply by looking at your email, resume, transcript, etc.?


This is not won't necessarily be effective in the SA recruitment experience, but when I was looking for work post-undergrad/pre-law school (largely for paralegal work), I would send applications 2-3 weeks before a planned trip to a city, and then make a follow-up phone call the week before my travel. If my résumé passed their sniff test, I invariably got an interview (equivalent to a screener for SA recruitment purposes, but still a foot in the door).

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:09 pm

Just got a CB invite from a firm that came to my OCI, but I didn't apply to through OCI.

:|

We will see how this goes.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:10 pm

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:15 pm

hoos89 wrote:What's with the :| ? You got a cb, congrats, and good luck!

Its going to be weird when they ask why I didn't apply through OCI. Right now I am probably just planning on being mostly honest.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
hoos89 wrote:What's with the :| ? You got a cb, congrats, and good luck!

Its going to be weird when they ask why I didn't apply through OCI. Right now I am probably just planning on being mostly honest.


None of the firms I had late CBs with through mass-mailing cared that I hadn't interviewed with them at OCI -- they know that we only have a limited number of firms we can bid on/interview with
Don't worry about it!

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:39 pm

Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby thirtyandseven » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.


Did you follow up by email or phone?

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:43 pm

what's people's move for following up by phone? I've been just calling saying I applied X weeks ago and am following up to see whether the firm's looking at write in applicants at this point. No CBs so far from this but a few positive indications

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:45 pm

thirtyandseven wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.


Did you follow up by email or phone?


E-mail with updated resume/transcript.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby thirtyandseven » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thirtyandseven wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.


Did you follow up by email or phone?


E-mail with updated resume/transcript.

Nice. Congrats!

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.

congrats!

after 70+ rejections in the last week or so, the MP of a satellite office (of a mass mailer) emailed me today and asked for my transcript. i sent transcript and an updated resume, then she asked if i'd be in the area anytime soon and sent me a link to apply online. i told her i can be in the area at a time of her convenience... it feels nice to *sort of* feel wanted. she has not yet responded. fingers xx.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby IAFG » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just pulled a V50 interview in NYC after following up this morning. I really needed that today.

congrats!

after 70+ rejections in the last week or so, the MP of a satellite office (of a mass mailer) emailed me today and asked for my transcript. i sent transcript and an updated resume, then she asked if i'd be in the area anytime soon and sent me a link to apply online. i told her i can be in the area at a time of her convenience... it feels nice to *sort of* feel wanted. she has not yet responded. fingers xx.

Proud of you guys for grinding on.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For the "don't waste your time" list: Alston & Bird has stated that it has an absolute policy of not considering direct applications for SAs.


It's a little late, but I directly applied and got an interview out of it...

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby rad lulz » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:41 pm

IAFG wrote:Proud of you guys for grinding on.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:03 pm

At this stage, what should a followup email look like? (emailed over a month ago in initial mass mail campaign)

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:At this stage, what should a followup email look like? (emailed over a month ago in initial mass mail campaign)


I've just been going with resume / transcript updates. For instance, I added my course schedule for this semester to my transcript and e-mailed that out saying essentially "Hey I'm still interested, here's my updated transcript with my schedule for the fall."

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:18 pm

In my initial e-mail I send my resume, cover letter and transcript. Have you guys been including a writing sample?

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby thirtyandseven » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:00 pm

No, I read that if you send a writing sample, whoever reads it will likely judge it harshly unless they are reading a bunch of student writing samples at the same time with which they can compare yours. Not sure if this is credited or not, but it sounds reasonable to me.

Also, I haven't even been sending the transcript... just the cover letter and resume. I figure firms only care about 1L grades to the extent that they factor into the class rank, which I've included in the resume anyway. But that's just my intuition; I'd be interested to hear others' take on transcripts.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby hoos89 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:19 pm

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:11 am

A couple days ago I got (and accepted) a job offer from a firm I mass-mailed! I'm at a T14 where most of my hometown firms don't come to recruit, so I figured I'd have to do a lot of mass-mailing, but I wanted to share a success story.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby luckyjd » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:A couple days ago I got (and accepted) a job offer from a firm I mass-mailed! I'm at a T14 where most of my hometown firms don't come to recruit, so I figured I'd have to do a lot of mass-mailing, but I wanted to share a success story.


congrats man! i'm also at t14, but mass mailing hasn't been very productive :( how many firms did you end up mass mailing to?

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:25 am

luckyjd wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:A couple days ago I got (and accepted) a job offer from a firm I mass-mailed! I'm at a T14 where most of my hometown firms don't come to recruit, so I figured I'd have to do a lot of mass-mailing, but I wanted to share a success story.


congrats man! i'm also at t14, but mass mailing hasn't been very productive :( how many firms did you end up mass mailing to?


25 or so; I needed to be back in my hometown (smaller secondary) for family reasons, so I mailed every firm there with a summer program. I got 9 CBs, so I was pretty happy with my response rate! Good luck!

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:40 am

Anonymous User wrote: 25 or so; I needed to be back in my hometown (smaller secondary) for family reasons, so I mailed every firm there with a summer program. I got 9 CBs, so I was pretty happy with my response rate! Good luck!


This is why I (almost) wish I hadn't grown up in NYC.

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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:16 pm

Just called some firms and made up a reason I'll be in the area next week. We'll see how that goes.

ETA: Just thought I would share that several firms told me that they would be starting to look at mass mail in the next 1-2 weeks.
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Re: Reminder: Stop reading tea leaves; Start Mass Mailing

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:14 pm

After sending around 40 mass mails, I realize that my standard opening line had a typo. A MOTHER FUCKING TYPO!




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