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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:46 pm

Anyone hear from Buchanan Ingersoll?

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:45 pm

Anyone still scrambling for an offer? I am and I feel like sh*t. =/

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:47 pm

Yes of course.

I'm top 15% and still don't have an offer.

Are you at least waiting to hear back from CBs?

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:00 pm

I still don't have an offer. You're not alone. There's quite a few people without offers still.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:15 pm

I mean, doesn't the majority of the class at Cornell (~60%) not get big law? Not having something lined up isn't an aberration, it's typical.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby hephaestus » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I mean, doesn't the majority of the class at Cornell (~60%) not get big law? Not having something lined up isn't an aberration, it's typical.

Actually the majority has in past years. For example, last year 64% were in firms of 100+ attorneys.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby BullShitWithBravado » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:52 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I mean, doesn't the majority of the class at Cornell (~60%) not get big law? Not having something lined up isn't an aberration, it's typical.

Actually the majority has in past years. For example, last year 64% were in firms of 100+ attorneys.


Just curious, where did you get that number from?

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby hephaestus » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:58 pm

BullShitWithBravado wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I mean, doesn't the majority of the class at Cornell (~60%) not get big law? Not having something lined up isn't an aberration, it's typical.

Actually the majority has in past years. For example, last year 64% were in firms of 100+ attorneys.


Just curious, where did you get that number from?

Its from this ABA data: http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/
122/190 are in firms of 100+ or Article III clerks.
And to clarify, when I said last year, I meant data from the class of 2012, which is the most recent comprehensive employment data. Career services alleged that for current 3Ls it was closer to 70% but they did not provide any data. We will have to wait until the Spring to find out how the class of 2013 did.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby BullShitWithBravado » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:53 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
BullShitWithBravado wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I mean, doesn't the majority of the class at Cornell (~60%) not get big law? Not having something lined up isn't an aberration, it's typical.

Actually the majority has in past years. For example, last year 64% were in firms of 100+ attorneys.


Just curious, where did you get that number from?

Its from this ABA data: http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/
122/190 are in firms of 100+ or Article III clerks.
And to clarify, when I said last year, I meant data from the class of 2012, which is the most recent comprehensive employment data. Career services alleged that for current 3Ls it was closer to 70% but they did not provide any data. We will have to wait until the Spring to find out how the class of 2013 did.


I'm curious to see how class of 2013 did. I don't remember the exact number, but I think DeRosa told us that about 85% of that class got something out of AJF. I doubt that that number is accurate though.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby redsox550 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:44 pm

BullShitWithBravado wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
BullShitWithBravado wrote:
I'm curious to see how class of 2013 did. I don't remember the exact number, but I think DeRosa told us that about 85% of that class got something out of AJF. I doubt that that number is accurate though.


That number seems high. NYU reported that 17% didn't get an offer through EIW (OCI) last year, so that would be surprising if Cornell did better, but possible.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby hephaestus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:59 pm

redsox550 wrote:
BullShitWithBravado wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
BullShitWithBravado wrote:
I'm curious to see how class of 2013 did. I don't remember the exact number, but I think DeRosa told us that about 85% of that class got something out of AJF. I doubt that that number is accurate though.


That number seems high. NYU reported that 17% didn't get an offer through EIW (OCI) last year, so that would be surprising if Cornell did better, but possible.

Yeah that number seems dubious.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:15 pm

Anyone hear from the resume drops (e.g. Yankwitt, Fragoment, etc.)

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby bwv812 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:04 pm

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:11 pm

Any news on how our class has done for OCI/biglaw placement? I talked to Dean Lukingbeal earlier this month and she said that Dean De Rosa was waiting for after Fall Break to tally the final numbers.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any news on how our class has done for OCI/biglaw placement? I talked to Dean Lukingbeal earlier this month and she said that Dean De Rosa was waiting for after Fall Break to tally the final numbers.


They're going to talk about it at a meeting with student group leaders. No idea when that meeting will be though, but I'm guessing sometime in Nov

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby redsox550 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:04 pm

bwv812 wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
redsox550 wrote:
BullShitWithBravado wrote:That number seems high. NYU reported that 17% didn't get an offer through EIW (OCI) last year, so that would be surprising if Cornell did better, but possible.

Yeah that number seems dubious.


Cornell has a lot fewer students to place, though. This helps in at least two ways: by making it easier for career services to place individual students (though it probably doesn't help that much unless Cornell's career services is actually good); and also by ensuring that some (marginal) students will get serious consideration at some firms simply because those firms want to have someone from Cornell at them in order to preserve their relationship with the school.


Cornell has a bunch of other advantages. to name a big one, which is kind of two. Cornell is basically first in the OCI ballgame which allows those you didn't do well some time to massmail and stuff before its too late, also tying into that, because of the different job fairs, students have an opportunity to see if they are successful or not at OCI and those who would for instance screw up AJF can improve and go into Boston/DC job fairs more prepared and with a different game plan. this is compared to other schools where its really a 3 or 4 day make it or it sucks for you period.

O ya a 3rd advantage (just remembered) is that because Cornell is smaller, less firms come. But that is beneficial since its probably the same firm to student ratio as other schools, but this way you can massmaill more effectively. For instance, you can email a decent list of NYC vault firms in July and tons of other firms in Boston & DC saying "Hi, I love you, but you arnt coming to Cornell, can we set up a screener" and thus get a ton more interviews (though this is probably not taken advantage of as much as it should) compared to if u go to NYU or Columbia, it will be difficult to find a decent size firm in NYC that is not interviewing at the school and thus you wont be able to get extra interviews or "practice" interviewing before OCI/AJF.

Still would be very surprised if Cornell has a higher percentage of people succeeding at OCI

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Anybody got an offer from Herrick?

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:01 pm

Someone got an offer from Herrick a couple weeks back.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:23 pm

Do you know if this person plans on taking it? Seems that I have been put on hold.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby AbLSAT » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Do you know if this person plans on taking it? Seems that I have been put on hold.


Bump. Please let me know. You can PM if you want.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:25 pm

I know they were strongly considering the offer but not sure if they accepted.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby AbLSAT » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I know they were strongly considering the offer but not sure if they accepted.


They? As in more then one? How many got? Trying to figure out my (slim) chances

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Miss_Sunshine » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:45 pm

Has anyone heard anything about how the 2L class did for OCI/biglaw?

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby hephaestus » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:08 pm

Miss_Sunshine wrote:Has anyone heard anything about how the 2L class did for OCI/biglaw?

Career services alleged 71% at the student leadership meeting this week.

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Re: Cornell AJF 2013 (plus OCI, Boston/DC fairs)

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:51 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
Miss_Sunshine wrote:Has anyone heard anything about how the 2L class did for OCI/biglaw?

Career services alleged 71% at the student leadership meeting this week.


That would be a 6% increase*.

In absolute terms (points).




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