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PennBull · Post by **PennBull** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:Employers won't have any more of a clue than we do.

They have a clue.

PennBull · Post by **PennBull** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:15 am

Nelson wrote:Also a good rule of thumb for DC is that if you feel like you don't have the grades for DC, you probably should trust your instinct and focus on NYC.

Yep.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:32 am

Nelson wrote:Also a good rule of thumb for DC is that if you feel like you don't have the grades for DC, you probably should trust your instinct and focus on NYC.

i know i'm trolling but i can't access the cpp website for some reason(my pennkey is bing rejected)

What would sort a good rule of thumb minimum gpa for being competitive with DC firms be? Without DC being reaches or seemingly wasting bids ofcourse. Above 3.5 (wilmer gpa if i remember correctly)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:30 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Nelson wrote:Also a good rule of thumb for DC is that if you feel like you don't have the grades for DC, you probably should trust your instinct and focus on NYC.
i know i'm trolling but i can't access the cpp website for some reason(my pennkey is bing rejected)

What would sort a good rule of thumb minimum gpa for being competitive with DC firms be? Without DC being reaches or seemingly wasting bids ofcourse. Above 3.5 (wilmer gpa if i remember correctly)

I'm kind of curious where this line of questioning is going...isn't it too late to be focusing on where you are competitive? Interview schedules have already been released...

--Tyrion

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:37 am

....which is why i apologized for trolling beforehand

wildcatatpenn · Post by **wildcatatpenn** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:....which is why i apologized for trolling beforehand

Wilmer DC
http://imgur.com/yE7kxTI

guess I'm not allowed to post images but there you go

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:24 pm

How much are we expected to know about each firm during OCI? What should we know about them other than their main practice areas?

OutCold · Post by **OutCold** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How much are we expected to know about each firm during OCI? What should we know about them other than their main practice areas?

Enough to articulate why you are interested in that firm as opposed to the other 100 firms.

PennBull · Post by **PennBull** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:36 pm

OutCold wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:How much are we expected to know about each firm during OCI? What should we know about them other than their main practice areas?
Enough to articulate why you are interested in that firm as opposed to the other 100 firms.

Yeah just knowing things they've done recently was good enough for me. I either used the Chambers Associate profiles or looked up the recent deals/cases listed under the interviewer's firm profile.

Also, name dropping a couple people who work there that you've spoken to always helped. "I spoke with X associate about Y, I found it [positive adjective], do you know anything about it?" usually conveyed to the interviewer I had done my homework

Nelson · Post by **Nelson** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:46 pm

Best thing to do is be able to say you've spoken to people who've worked there. It's pretty much impossible to differentiate based on internet research.

OutCold · Post by **OutCold** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:54 am

I think the tactic that worked the best for me was to pick one semi-unique characteristic of the firm (preferably one they like to talk up) and hammer on it through all my interviews, including callbacks. It even works for stupid things. Latham, the way you include associates in the management of your firm is just swell because I like some semblance of control and transparency in my career. Jones Day, I love your new lawyer's group because I know I want corporate but having flexibility to try everything is ever so important to me. Boies, the entrepreneurial spirit and ability to be rewarded for the business I can bring in appeals the hustler in me. Cravath, the idea of being paired with a partner for 2-year rotations and being able to learn from a master while tending to his every whim and desire just sounds so terrific--mentors are cool. Quinn, I love wearing sandals to work and pretending I'm at a start-up while I bide my time until I burn out. Weil, bankruptcy intrigues me when you aren't laying people off.

OutCold · Post by **OutCold** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 am

Also, at callbacks, talk about something the last interviewer told you. Works like a charm.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:53 am

Is it worth sending a quick email to update firms on secondary journal placement, like "Please find attached my resume updated to reflect acceptance to the University of Pennsylvania Journal of Law and Puppies"? Or is that just drawing the firm's attention to the fact that you didn't make law review.

I'm specifically talking about firms we didn't get interviews with through OCI bidding.

PennBull · Post by **PennBull** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is it worth sending a quick email to update firms on secondary journal placement, like "Please find attached my resume updated to reflect acceptance to the University of Pennsylvania Journal of Law and Puppies"? Or is that just drawing the firm's attention to the fact that you didn't make law review.

I'm specifically talking about firms we didn't get interviews with through OCI bidding.

Yeah it can't hurt. I did to some of the smaller firms I mailed.

CaptainQuaker · Post by **CaptainQuaker** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:56 pm

Looking to trade Simpson Thatcher (nyc) for K&L Gates (nyc) or Linklaters (nyc). PM me if interested.

penn278 · Post by **penn278** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:35 pm

Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?

Penn16 · Post by **Penn16** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:40 pm

penn278 wrote:Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?

I got 2 more off the WL, and am now sitting at about 30, so I'm also interested in this. also, penn278, if any of the ones you're thinking of dropping are DC and/or you want NY, feel free to pm me.

PennBrady · Post by **PennBrady** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:59 pm

If anyone's looking to drop any Philly or DC firms, feel free to shoot me a PM. I'll happily take any freebies. Alternatively I have a few NY slots I'd be willing to trade.

Oh, and I apparently got City of Philadelphia Law Department off the wait list by sheer accident, so I'm happy to give that away to any gov/PI gunners who might be interested.

Nelson · Post by **Nelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:05 pm

penn278 wrote:Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?

You can do that many. It'll make for some busy days but it's doable. You're gonna be locked in the complex for those days anyway, might as well make the most of it.

pennoci2014 · Post by **pennoci2014** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:07 pm

I am looking to trade some Boston offices. PM me if you are interested.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:10 pm

Nelson wrote:
penn278 wrote:Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?
You can do that many. It'll make for some busy days but it's doable. You're gonna be locked in the complex for those days anyway, might as well make the most of it.

Is 32 suicidal? Should I stop picking up open slots?
One of the panelists last semester said he managed to snag 48 or something, attended almost all of them, and wound up with 15 offers to choose from. The other panelists seemed to think he was insane FWIW.

Nelson · Post by **Nelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Nelson wrote:
penn278 wrote:Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?
You can do that many. It'll make for some busy days but it's doable. You're gonna be locked in the complex for those days anyway, might as well make the most of it.
Is 32 suicidal? Should I stop picking up open slots?
One of the panelists last semester said he managed to snag 48 or something, attended almost all of them, and wound up with 15 offers to choose from. The other panelists seemed to think he was insane FWIW.

Depends. If you have baller grades, reducing the number saves energy for callbacks and lets you focus on the firms you really want to go to. If you're median or below, 48 might not be enough. Also depends what markets those firms are in.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:18 pm

Nelson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Nelson wrote:
penn278 wrote:Did anyone else pick up a bunch of interviews off of waitlists? I didn't expect to get any and got 6 more (27 total now). Thinking I may want to trade some off.

CPP said more than 25 is too much. Any thoughts from you guys who have been through it before?
You can do that many. It'll make for some busy days but it's doable. You're gonna be locked in the complex for those days anyway, might as well make the most of it.
Is 32 suicidal? Should I stop picking up open slots?
One of the panelists last semester said he managed to snag 48 or something, attended almost all of them, and wound up with 15 offers to choose from. The other panelists seemed to think he was insane FWIW.
Depends. If you have baller grades, reducing the number saves energy for callbacks and lets you focus on the firms you really want to go to. If you're median or below, 48 might not be enough. Also depends what markets those firms are in.

Little over 1/3 NY, little under 2/3 tough regional market. Grades are comfortably above median but not LR grade-on comfortably.

Nelson · Post by **Nelson** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:25 pm

To above poster, IMO do them all. Don't cancel interviews until you have an offer in hand is a good general rule.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:01 pm

Is anybody else having trouble signing up for open interviews? I am following the directions in the email CPP sent out, but the dates aren't displayed as buttons like they said.

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