How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

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How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:05 am

Taking a final look at my bidlist and wondering this. If they are all hard cutoffs, there probably won't be many firms I can actually bid on.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby Nelson » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:07 am

Get data from your school and don't rely on what the firms say. Those numbers are way off at my school anyway.

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:12 am

I feel that if you're too far below, they might preselect you for a screener, but won't call you back or, if the do, will never offer you.

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby manofjustice » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:I feel that if you're too far below, they might preselect you for a screener, but won't call you back or, if the do, will never offer you.


Didn't mean to be annon.

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:35 am

manofjustice wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I feel that if you're too far below, they might preselect you for a screener, but won't call you back or, if the do, will never offer you.


Didn't mean to be annon.


My school's OCI is pure lottery, but all the firms we bid on get our resumes. Any thoughts on how this changes the role of the hiring guidelines?

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby AFS » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I feel that if you're too far below, they might preselect you for a screener, but won't call you back or, if the do, will never offer you.

Why would a firm preselect a candidate that would have no chance of being hired?

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:46 pm

thesealocust wrote:A wise and insightful person once wrote:

PSA - when a firm lists its GPA preference and requirements, you should do the following: Ignore them entirely and mother fucking ask career services.

Firms lie through their god damned teeth on those things, and I want to keep harping on it, because it is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR CAREER PROSPECTS. The firms are lying or naive or outsourcing their symplicity profiles to India or who knows what, but if you ask a 3 year old with a box of crayons to draw you the cut off for a firm you'll get a better answer than the firm's published cutoff on your OCI software.

Firms aren't consistently high, or consistently low - they're just consistently full of shit. A firm that says "top third required" might hire to median, it might hire from the top 3% without exception, and there's even a remote chance it will hire from the top third. But those pieces of data simply cannot be relied upon at all. Not even in a cursory way. Not for comparison's sake, not when nothing else will do. You need to completely disregard them, and beg/borrow/steal data from career services. Your (and that's the royal 'your' for everyone out there reading in paranoid law student land) career depends on it.

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Re: How rigid are firms' OCI "hiring guidelines" on Symplicity?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:55 pm

JusticeHarlan wrote:
thesealocust wrote:A wise and insightful person once wrote:

PSA - when a firm lists its GPA preference and requirements, you should do the following: Ignore them entirely and mother fucking ask career services.

Firms lie through their god damned teeth on those things, and I want to keep harping on it, because it is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR CAREER PROSPECTS. The firms are lying or naive or outsourcing their symplicity profiles to India or who knows what, but if you ask a 3 year old with a box of crayons to draw you the cut off for a firm you'll get a better answer than the firm's published cutoff on your OCI software.

Firms aren't consistently high, or consistently low - they're just consistently full of shit. A firm that says "top third required" might hire to median, it might hire from the top 3% without exception, and there's even a remote chance it will hire from the top third. But those pieces of data simply cannot be relied upon at all. Not even in a cursory way. Not for comparison's sake, not when nothing else will do. You need to completely disregard them, and beg/borrow/steal data from career services. Your (and that's the royal 'your' for everyone out there reading in paranoid law student land) career depends on it.



manofjustice wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I feel that if you're too far below, they might preselect you for a screener, but won't call you back or, if the do, will never offer you.


Didn't mean to be annon.

OP here. Thanks for the advice guys.




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