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NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:48 am

Who out there is applying for 2014 summer associate positions at Jersey firms? Let's get some collective knowledge in this thread.

Also, since there are likely to be many Anons, I'm recommending we use code names.

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Disclaimer: Information below may not be entirely accurate. Please contact the firm if you have questions about their program.

Firm Updates:
Fragomen: SA hiring mostly limited to immigration law
K&L Gates (Newark): No SAs
Kelley Drye (Newark): No SAs
Lerner David: SA hiring limited to IP
McCarter English: Doesn't have an SA program
Norris McLaughlin & Marcus: Not hiring SAs for 2014
Ogletree (Morristown): Not reviewing applications for 2014 SAs
Patton Boggs (Newark): Is "not accepting resumes for the 2014 Summer Program"
Porzio, Bromberg and Newman: Does "not plan to interview second year students this year"
Preti Flaherty (Bedminster): No SAs
Proskauer Rose (Newark): SA hiring limited to labor law
Riker Danzig: Accepting resumes
White and Williams (Paramus): No SAs
Wilentz, Goldman & Spitzer: Doesn't have an SA program
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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:Who out there is applying for 2014 summer associate positions at Jersey firms? Let's get some collective knowledge in this thread.

Also, since there are likely to be many Anons, I'm recommending we use code names.

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Applying to north jersey firms.

Proskauer Newark apparently is only hiring in construction (or something like that- I wasn't paying attention so I don't remember exactly)

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:25 am

I've updated OP with the firms I've heard back from and will continue to update based on the info in this thread.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:33 am

Checking in

Proskauer is showing up at my school's OCI FWIW.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:40 am

When I get a chance, I'll provide my list, but a lot of jersey firms stopped doing summer programs, and exclusively hire state clerks or laterals

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:49 am

Geez, I can smell blood already...

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Who out there is applying for 2014 summer associate positions at Jersey firms? Let's get some collective knowledge in this thread.

Also, since there are likely to be many Anons, I'm recommending we use code names.

-Red Herring
Applying to north jersey firms.

Proskauer Newark apparently is only hiring in construction (or something like that- I wasn't paying attention so I don't remember exactly)

- Shore Surfer
Correction - proskauer Newark is exclusively labor & employment

McCarter & English do not hire first years

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by dannynoonan87 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:33 pm

Riker Danzig is collecting resumes from my school

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:43 pm

My spouse currently works at one of the "big" NJ firms and pulling down a first year associate position absent a clerkship in the Appellate Division/NJ Supreme Court and or neighboring federal courts is very difficult. Firms that stick to the traditional hiring model (Lowenstein/MDMC) still exist, but they really poach from the top of the top from the local schools and applicants from higher ranked schools with demonstrable ties to New Jersey. I really would anticipate a general lack of getting anything substantive from these firms unless you are planning to clerk for one of the above after which the chances seem far greater. The New Jersey legal market is one of the most insular in the nation and approaching employment there as a viable commute option from New York (unless you have sterling credentials from the top schools) is not going to produce the results you might be anticipating.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:44 pm

No longer a current student, but here are the NJ firms I interviewed with a few years ago. Of course, not all are hiring, but at least it will give you some additional firms to target, if you aren't already. I did interviews with:

Lowenstein Sandler
Proskauer Newark
Prozio Bromberg
Sills Cummis & Gross
Patton Boggs
Bressler Amery & Ross

I think my Pepper Hamilton interview was technically for the Princeton office, even though the interview was conducted in Philly.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:16 pm

Fragomen is predominantly immigration
Gibson dies not hire SAs
K&L Gates has no SAs in Newark
Kelley Drye has no SAs in Parsippany
Lerner David is IP only
Norris McLaughlin doesn't appear to be hiring SAs or first year attorneys
Ogletree is not yet reviewing submissions for 2014 SAs
Preti Flaherty has no SAs in Bedminster
White and Williams has no SAs in Paramus

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:40 pm

Graduated, but interviewed with almost all of the NJ firms.

The ones that take SA's are:
Lowenstein Sandler
McElroy Deutsch (MDMC)
Bressler Amery & Ross
Sills Cummis & Gross
Cole Schotz
Riker Danzig
Day Pitney (Parsippany)
Archer & Grenier (South Jersey)
Drinker Biddle & Reath (Florham Park; I think)
connell foley (I think; may have stopped)
Lindabury McCormick (I think; may have stopped)
Fox Rothschild (last I saw, they take one SA per office)
Proskauer Newark (Employment only)
Patton Boggs (Environmental Defense only)
Lerner David (IP only)

These are firms that I know used to have summer programs but don't anymore:
McCarter English
Porzio Bromberg & Newman
Greenbaum Rowe
Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer
Gibbons, P.C.
Wolff & Samson

Most of the BigLaw outposts (i.e. K&L Gates, Latham, Ballard Spahr, etc.) only have small NJ offices and have never taken SA's. I think there are some other smaller/mid-sized firms that hire SA's, but you'll probably have to dig for them because they're non-NALP. And most of them hire out of NJ clerkships (although from my experience, it's not limited to Appellate Supreme, but that will depend on your credentials and your judge).

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:27 pm

OP updated, thanks for the info Rosalita.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:01 pm

I heard from solid source that Sills Cummis is not taking any SAs this year. fucking bloodbath.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Saul Ewing- predominantly utilities & telecom
Sedgwick - predominantly chemicals and pharmaceuticals

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:33 am

What's going on with Sedgwick? I can't even get to their website...

http://www.sdma.com

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:30 am

Anonymous User wrote:What's going on with Sedgwick? I can't even get to their website...

http://www.sdma.com

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It's working fine for me. May have been temporary. That being said, Day Pitney's application page isn't working for me (won't upload docs). Will be calling later today to find out what the story is - great excuse for a call

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:06 am

Is anyone else having technical difficulties with all of the firms that use LawCruit? It won't let me upload docs. Is that what you were using, shore?

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:55 am

Anonymous User wrote:Is anyone else having technical difficulties with all of the firms that use LawCruit? It won't let me upload docs. Is that what you were using, shore?

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Same here. I intend to call the company that provides the software, but I've been out of commission this past week.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:01 am

Any hint on whether these firms are taking 3Ls?

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

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Anonymous User wrote:Any hint on whether these firms are taking 3Ls?

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Maybe, but a better bet is to get a Jersey state clerkship.
It seems that Jersey firms more and more are eschewing SAs in favor of taking attorneys who've already gotten some experience.

When I get a chance, I'll look it up, but at least one firm coming to my OCI is interviewing 3Ls

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:12 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any hint on whether these firms are taking 3Ls?

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Maybe, but a better bet is to get a Jersey state clerkship.
It seems that Jersey firms more and more are eschewing SAs in favor of taking attorneys who've already gotten some experience.

When I get a chance, I'll look it up, but at least one firm coming to my OCI is interviewing 3Ls

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Curious if doing two different SAs (one as a 1L and one as a 2L) would give me some leverage. I'm looking to move back home if possible if I don't or can't stick where I am at now.

Legitimate work experience since all I did was substantive legal work at both firms I summered at.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:12 am

Anonymous User wrote:Any hint on whether these firms are taking 3Ls?

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It can't hurt to apply, but from my experience, they want post-clerkships and laterals. Your best bet is to get on App. Div./NJ Supreme (and Law Div. assignment judges) applications.

-Rosalita

ETA: If you've had 1L/2L SA's, definitely apply to Supreme. They pay close to federal clerkship rates and you shouldn't have a problem getting a place like Lowenstein or McCarter English afterwards; although I can see with your SA's one of the two potentially biting now.

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Re: NJ Firms: 2013 Edition

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any hint on whether these firms are taking 3Ls?

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It can't hurt to apply, but from my experience, they want post-clerkships and laterals. Your best bet is to get on App. Div./NJ Supreme (and Law Div. assignment judges) applications.

-Rosalita

ETA: If you've had 1L/2L SA's, definitely apply to Supreme. They pay close to federal clerkship rates and you shouldn't have a problem getting a place like Lowenstein or McCarter English afterwards; although I can see with your SA's one of the two potentially biting now.
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