choculamaviva wrote:Anonymous User wrote:right below 178 no LR.
What are "safeties?"
Are non-super-selective NYC firms okay to mix in(Skadden, Weil, Latham, Jones Day, Milbank), or do I need more firms like Sheppard Mullin in my top 15?
So far I've tried to have a healthy dose of reaches (Sidley Chi, K&E Chi/NY, cleary) mixed in with mostly well-regarded, non-super-selective NYC.
Is this appropriate?
Skadden and Weil(maybe Jones too) are not safeties for someone with your numbers. They are reaches, albeit reaches that you may be able to get if you are lucky. My earlier point was that, despite their ranking, Skadden,Simpson Thatcher, etc are not super selective, i.e. you don't need a 180. This doesn't mean a medianish person is a prime candidate. Safeties would be firms that hire lots of people and are a little lower on the food chain. Off the top of my head I can't give examples. While I like Sheppard and think they would be a good bid, I think the NYC office is small-ish (maybe 40-50) and therefore probably won't have a huge summer class. Short point: almost all the firms you listed are (attainable) reaches. Please don't base your bidding on the Vault rankings. Terms like V20 don't really exist outside of the Law school/TLS/K-JD world and you will not be compensated more for V20 than V40.
So, besides the firms I've listed (reaches that are obtainable), what are some firms with huge classes in NYC that would be considered good safeties? How many safeties do I need to mix into my top bids?
I've mailed or included all the firms Mad Hatter has listed, but it seems that the firms with the biggest class sizes are also more-selective reaches.