Re: No Offer Guide and Support thread (no advice for SAs, 1Ls)
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:26 pm
What exactly is a cold offer?
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Either:SBL wrote:What exactly is a cold offer?
What will your references from the firm say?Anonymous User wrote:The firm told me I was no offered because of work product but in my final review they told me I had good work product and I should not worry about receiving an offer. How do I answer the question of why I was no offered in an interview? Do I have to say it was because of work product?
My mentor has already told me he will give me a good recommendation. I worked with him on four assignments and he gave me all great reviews.NYstate wrote:What will your references from the firm say?Anonymous User wrote:The firm told me I was no offered because of work product but in my final review they told me I had good work product and I should not worry about receiving an offer. How do I answer the question of why I was no offered in an interview? Do I have to say it was because of work product?
Then don't say it was for work product. Maybe ask your mentor for advice? Maybe you can say if asked, that you didn't have a negative review the entire summer ?Anonymous User wrote:My mentor has already told me he will give me a good recommendation. I worked with him on four assignments and he gave me all great reviews.NYstate wrote:What will your references from the firm say?Anonymous User wrote:The firm told me I was no offered because of work product but in my final review they told me I had good work product and I should not worry about receiving an offer. How do I answer the question of why I was no offered in an interview? Do I have to say it was because of work product?
Stanford4Me wrote:I got a cold offer. I didn't ask for one, they just gave me one because they "liked" me and felt I wasn't a "lost cause."Anonymous User wrote:I just got no offered. How do you ask for a cold offer? Has anyone been successful in getting a cold offer?
I'd like to second all the aboveNYstate wrote:Then don't say it was for work product. Maybe ask your mentor for advice? Maybe you can say if asked, that you didn't have a negative review the entire summer ?Anonymous User wrote:My mentor has already told me he will give me a good recommendation. I worked with him on four assignments and he gave me all great reviews.NYstate wrote:What will your references from the firm say?Anonymous User wrote:The firm told me I was no offered because of work product but in my final review they told me I had good work product and I should not worry about receiving an offer. How do I answer the question of why I was no offered in an interview? Do I have to say it was because of work product?
What really happened here? Is it financial? Maybe you will never know.
I went to lunch with the associate, where he asked me when I thought I could get the assignment to him, I under estimated by about an hour but the only real deadline was to get it to him before he went home for the night since he wanted to read it on the train... The review said I shouldn't have gone to lunch if I thought I would be late.NYstate wrote: So can you talk to someone to get more information? An hour late can be a huge problem on some matters and mean nothing on others. I'm not sure what going to lunch has to do with anything.
If this is actually the way things went down, that is fucked up.Anonymous User wrote:I went to lunch with the associate, where he asked me when I thought I could get the assignment to him, I under estimated by about an hour but the only real deadline was to get it to him before he went home for the night since he wanted to read it on the train... The review said I shouldn't have gone to lunch if I thought I would be late.NYstate wrote: So can you talk to someone to get more information? An hour late can be a huge problem on some matters and mean nothing on others. I'm not sure what going to lunch has to do with anything.
Well I didn't get to read the actual review but that was the summary given to me combined with what happened, I figure it might have been fairly harshly written but I was getting work from more senior people up until the last day or two of the summer, and those people had worked with me more.Anonymous User wrote:If this is actually the way things went down, that is fucked up.Anonymous User wrote:I went to lunch with the associate, where he asked me when I thought I could get the assignment to him, I under estimated by about an hour but the only real deadline was to get it to him before he went home for the night since he wanted to read it on the train... The review said I shouldn't have gone to lunch if I thought I would be late.NYstate wrote: So can you talk to someone to get more information? An hour late can be a huge problem on some matters and mean nothing on others. I'm not sure what going to lunch has to do with anything.
My friend from undergrad who is a third year associate there told me that the firm implied to the associates that they over hired. I did have one bad review but they told me multiple times that the review was not a big deal and it was not that bad of a review.NYstate wrote:Then don't say it was for work product. Maybe ask your mentor for advice? Maybe you can say if asked, that you didn't have a negative review the entire summer ?Anonymous User wrote:My mentor has already told me he will give me a good recommendation. I worked with him on four assignments and he gave me all great reviews.NYstate wrote:What will your references from the firm say?Anonymous User wrote:The firm told me I was no offered because of work product but in my final review they told me I had good work product and I should not worry about receiving an offer. How do I answer the question of why I was no offered in an interview? Do I have to say it was because of work product?
What really happened here? Is it financial? Maybe you will never know.
If that's your good faith belief, go with thatAnonymous User wrote: My friend from undergrad who is a third year associate there told me that the firm implied to the associates that they over hired. I did have one bad review but they told me multiple times that the review was not a big deal and it was not that bad of a review.
If asked, should I tell firms that they over hired?
If it isn't at your OCI the you probably don't go to a target school which means your chances are very, very, very slim. Only MBB recruit JDs in any significant volume and of those M is the biggest recruiter.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know if management consulting is a viable alternative for no offers? Is a no offer as much of a black mark for consulting?
That said, does anyone know the recruiting timeline, I haven't looked at a consulting case in years so I'd need to study before attempting one...
Yuck. What market?Anonymous User wrote:Checking in. No offered after being told in my final review that I should expect an offer and to not tell anybody at school that I should be worried about getting an offer.
When I asked why--pointing out that they told me not to worry--they told me they didn't want to get into it. Lolwut.rad lulz wrote:I'm literally sittin in front of my computer ir8 as fuck on your behalf
That is just SHIT brother
This is so maddingly unhelpful. I cannot believe it. I guess they don't owe you an offer but they sure as fuck owe you a why not.Anonymous User wrote:When I asked why--pointing out that they told me not to worry--they told me they didn't want to get into it. Lolwut.rad lulz wrote:I'm literally sittin in front of my computer ir8 as fuck on your behalf
That is just SHIT brother
The firm not only fucks him over but also makes sure that he doesn't hurt their reputation. And then won't even tell him why they fucked him over.rad lulz wrote:I'm literally sittin in front of my computer ir8 as fuck on your behalf
That is just SHIT brother
Do you have any references that you trust at the firm to support you? This is probably financial and they don't want to admit it to you. Be careful with references. Use the line that they weren't in a position to make an offer.Anonymous User wrote:When I asked why--pointing out that they told me not to worry--they told me they didn't want to get into it. Lolwut.rad lulz wrote:I'm literally sittin in front of my computer ir8 as fuck on your behalf
That is just SHIT brother