I updated the OP, but I don't think the shift was as significant this time.
Anonymous User wrote:OK, here's some more specific advice:
1) I get that you want to target some reach firms, but you're still overreaching. Literally half of your first 30 bids are V25 firms. That's not even close to a "decent balance." As a median Penn student, you face a substantial risk of striking out at OCI; you should be targeting firms where you'll be competitive.
2) The DC firms are pretty much out of the question. There were people from my year on law review, with much better grades, who struck out when they bid only on DC firms. The class sizes are too small and there's way too many competitive applicants for a median Penn student to have much of a chance.
3) Firms you should remove: DPW, Simpson, WilmerHale DC (all below grade threshold), Paul Weiss (below grade threshold unless you're 100% corporate; if you are 100% corporate, then keep as a reach), Latham (class size too small and too competitive in NYC), maybe Weil (layoffs indicate their class size will be very small).
4) I would rearrange so that the less selective firms are higher (e.g. Milbank, Cahill, Kasowitz).
Hello, thanks again for your advice. I hope you’ll answer some questions, as I am very open to modifying my bid list according to the tips I get but I won’t do so blindly.
1) This argument seems based on vault rankings, whereas I ordered my list based on the grade distributions of offers. From that data, I thought about 8 in my new top 25 were reaches (K&E, Skadden, Debevoise, White & Case, Goodwin, Weil, Akin Gump, Willkie). From what I’ve heard from others in your class, basically anything below 30 you won’t get anyway, and the ones who got stuff in the high 20s were because they bid the firms with large number of interview slots in those bids.
2) I only have Hogan as DC on my top 30 now, that’s hardly bidding only DC. I guess I don’t mind switching it to NY, but is it really worth bidding the NY office when the DC class is 3x the size (40-some vs. teens)?
3) WH/Latham are gone (or so low they’re essentially gone). My understanding is that it isn’t worth bidding any other firms in the DPW/STB slots solely due to interview slots. Keeping Weil though.
4) Cahill is already pretty high and I can probably shift Milbank a few spots but it wasn’t one of the most popular firms last year so I don’t want to use a really high bid on it. I would not prefer to move Kasowitz much as I have noted that it is heavy lit and at this point, I only want lit for one area (IP). Of course, I haven’t really tried many practice areas so I’m kind of shooting in the dark here.