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Anonymous User wrote:Is it me or is the general sentiment from what I've been hearing that NYU got screwed over this year? Are firms actually decreasing their summer classes across the board?
that's what I feel like too. it doesn't help for the future that peer schools like Columbia have decreased their overall class sizes in response to fewer applications, but of course NYU would never do such a thing
I actually really do find OCS useful (it depends on who you talk to), but severely, severely understaffed. From what I understand Columbia's OCS has multiple levels of review before you can even upload your resume. I bet their mock interviewing program, whatever it is, is also tons better than ours.
This speculation about other schools is a bit useless and also misinformed. I worked with a lot of Columbia students this summer and they complained just as often, if not more, about their career services and its own incompetency. Their mock interview program happens much earlier in the process (and they said they didn't take it seriously because of that) and for many students was held on campus with career services employees. Ours, at least, was with real firms and real people, which I thought was SUPER helpful and was also instrumental in their fitting me into the interview schedule when I didn't originally get one through the bidding process. I am lucky enough to have received an offer, and it is with that firm.
I know a lot of people are in a really tough situation right now, but complaining about career services or class sizes is unfair considering how much work I think career services has put into making EIW run as smoothly as possible.
Obviously career services works hard. I really like them, I've made copious use of them, and I find them useful. But they're understaffed. e.g., a friend of mine had them drop her from an appointment she had scheduled beforehand, because they were running late that day, and she had "already used too many of their resources." Ideally they would have the time to speak to all 2Ls who did EIW and who don't have offers yet.
And are you saying that you were able to get a screener through your mock interviewer?? Good for you if you did. But I found my mock interviewer not particularly helpful--s/he was really nice, but I think s/he didn't give more useful feedback because s/he didn't want to hurt my feelings (or they are just naturally charismatic themselves). No one in OCS cares about that, they care about doing their jobs well, which means getting you a job. I realized I was doing interviews totally wrong only after meeting with someone in OCS. Mock interviewers are really hit or miss I think, especially for people with a lot to work on in terms of interviewing skills.
I understand that you don't want us to be down on OCS. I don't think it's right to bash them either. But there is a difference between bashing them and pointing out things that we think could be improved, based on our own experiences with them. Everyone is not as lucky as you, and it would be great if you could step back and understand where some of the frustration of the rest of us coming from, instead of telling us to STFU basically.