Desert Fox wrote:Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Say you bid on the secondary first if anyone asks. They probably won't. Not all school have an auto LR polichy.
You have a lot of power given your grades. The school does not want you to transfer. The school does not give a sh$^ who is on LR. For the purposes of OCI every interview you will be asked about this. I don't see what plausible lie you you can tell. The truth makes you seem lazy. Saying you opted not to participate in LR makes you seem lazy. Saying you bid on the secondary journal is implausible, and makes you seem lazy and like an idiot if believed. I think you can strong-arm the school into putting you on LR. If you apply to transfer to the T14 your grades will matter and LR will not, you will get in somewhere good, you can do OCI without this whole issue coming up because if you are not on LR there it's not a red flag and you still have a very good chance at big law. The worst option is to do nothing. The best option is to prepare applications in the next few days, email a dean at your school tomorrow morning, and prepare to either join law review or move to a better law school.
Most schools don't control journal membership, and blackmailing your way on LR probably won't work. The school can replace you like **that** with a transfer.
I've done maybe 120 or more interviews at big law firms, maybe 5 ever asked about journal. Other than law review nerds ( I don't mean people who did LR, I mean people who thought Law Review was better than sex) I don't think people really care that much. Its a signal for good grades, but this guy is already top 1%.
Those I know who didn't do journal, did quite well at OCI. But they all had something else going on, like moot court or trial team.
Law Review is secretarial work. Everyone knows it.
I get your point, but the thing is that not having LR as top 1% would stand out, even if they don't know that the school does grade on. It's not an issue for most people because having LR and top 10% isn't interesting, so they don't mention it.
OP: My advice would be to look back at your write-on with a very critical mindset. Do you think you can see their point of view that there was no effort involved? If so, I wouldn't bother with fighting over it -- just transfer. You will do yourself a service because you will have a better school on your resume and most likely you won't have to do law review (that's a good thing -- it sucks balls). But this way you have a reason because lots of transfers don't do LR.
On the other hand, if your submission really reads like a good faith effort AND you really want to stay at the school, I would bring it up with the dean. Don't make this an argument, however. I would frame it the way we have here. E.g. "Dean X, I would love to stay here and don't mind working on Secondary Journal. However, I feel that this will be a huge problem with employers, and I can't justify sabotaging my career by staying without being on LR." (Note: I don't think your career would be sabotaged, but the anxiety over jobs is normal so this will come off sincerely).
By the way, I am not implying that you didn't give it an honest effort. I just mean that the better your submission objectively is, the more likely you will get somewhere with the dean. I would really recommend transferring if you don't mind leaving your current location. Normally transfer decisions are win win because you trade grades for a school. But that usually includes grades + LR at old school. Here, you gain more by transferring. Plus, top 1% will get you higher than top 10% could.