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Have to Miss OCI b/c Travelling Abroad

Postby redsoxfaan3 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:28 pm

*edited for clarity

. I am a rising 2L in the top 5% of my class. Will I be able to get a 2L position if I no-show to OCI? Can I do OCI from a remote location? Any advice is appreciated
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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby Wahoos » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:29 pm

You don't go on the trip

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby redsoxfaan3 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:34 pm

Wahoos wrote:You don't go on the trip


So say I literally cannot miss it. What then

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby guano » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:37 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
Wahoos wrote:You don't go on the trip


So say I literally cannot miss it. What then

Prioritize.

Alternatively, start mass mailing and network your butt off. OCI isn't the only way to get a job.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:37 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
Wahoos wrote:You don't go on the trip


So say I literally cannot miss it. What then

I doubt that

You miss the trip dude

I don't care if the trip is to the funeral of your overseas mom or whatever

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby JusticeHarlan » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:39 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
Wahoos wrote:You don't go on the trip


So say I literally cannot miss it. What then

You will be giving up some number, perhaps dozens given your grades, of interviews with firms that have a history of hiring 2Ls with your grades from your school.

It will be very difficult to get a biglaw summer associate position without doing OCI. Sure, you can (and should) do mass mailing, but so much of hiring comes from OCI it's a big blow to miss it. Especially if you want to work for the firms that come to OCI at your school, that's the way they tend to fill their classes. I'd really, really skip the trip.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby Jsa725 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:40 pm

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby redsoxfaan3 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:40 pm

So the OCI period for my school is August 5-14 and the trip is August 7-16, any way I can somehow kindly ask each employer to interview me on the 5th and 6th?

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby oblig.lawl.ref » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:44 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:So the OCI period for my school is August 5-14 and the trip is August 7-16, any way I can somehow kindly ask each employer to interview me on the 5th and 6th?


I don't think you want to let employers know you couldn't make yourself available for the one thing in your entire law school career you should be available for.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:44 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:So the OCI period for my school is August 5-14 and the trip is August 7-16, any way I can somehow kindly ask each employer to interview me on the 5th and 6th?

Usually employers show up just for the day only

Dude you are at Hastings?

You need to do OCI

Big firm employers aren't exactly falling all over themselves to hire Hastings grads

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby biglawww » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:47 pm

You are probably going to get a job outside of OGI if you're top 5% at a top school. But you may not want to tell the firms you're missing OGI because of family trip. They want young associate to treat work > family.

It's your choice but I personally find it immature.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby redsoxfaan3 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:48 pm

biglawww wrote:You are probably going to get a job outside of OGI if you're top 5% at a top school. But you may not want to tell the firms you're missing OGI because of family trip. They want young associate to treat work > family.

It's your choice but I personally find it immature.


It's not a typical Home Alone-style family trip. I am not going to explain it here, but I am trying to figure out options if I literally cannot make it.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby chuckbass » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:49 pm

rad lulz wrote:
redsoxfaan3 wrote:
Wahoos wrote:You don't go on the trip


So say I literally cannot miss it. What then

I doubt that

You miss the trip dude

I don't care if the trip is to the funeral of your overseas mom or whatever

Agreed. There's really no valid reason that you should be missing OCI.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby stillwater » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:51 pm

yea, this is really indefensible for you to miss it. if you can't make this, why did you go to law school if you can't commit to doing what you need to do to make it worth it?

your family most of all should understand this.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby Jsa725 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:51 pm

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby biglawww » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:52 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
biglawww wrote:You are probably going to get a job outside of OGI if you're top 5% at a top school. But you may not want to tell the firms you're missing OGI because of family trip. They want young associate to treat work > family.

It's your choice but I personally find it immature.


It's not a typical Home Alone-style family trip. I am not going to explain it here, but I am trying to figure out options if I literally cannot make it.


You can try to make the firm to interview you before OGI. But it usually makes sense for people who want market X, work in market X during the summer and go to school in city Y.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby rad lulz » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:52 pm

biglawww wrote:You are probably going to get a job outside of OGI if you're top 5% at a top school. But you may not want to tell the firms you're missing OGI because of family trip. They want young associate to treat work > family.

It's your choice but I personally find it immature.

Hastings is not a top school

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby 2014 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:53 pm

You literally can make it, you clearly don't want to, but you definitely can.

It's your career, no one here has a magic answer. Mass mail and hope for the best but otherwise prepare for hundreds of thousands of lost income over your career. I hope the trip is worth it.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby redsoxfaan3 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:56 pm

2014 wrote:You literally can make it, you clearly don't want to, but you definitely can.

It's your career, no one here has a magic answer. Mass mail and hope for the best but otherwise prepare for hundreds of thousands of lost income over your career. I hope the trip is worth it.


So, the point of these boards is to give advice to people who have not gone through this process before. I have not gone through this process before so I am trying to figure out the best solution to this problem. I'm not advocating for one position or the other; I'm just trying to see what I can do.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby guano » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:56 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:So stupidly I got roped into travelling with my family internationally

This doesn't sound like something you can't miss

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby guano » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:57 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
2014 wrote:You literally can make it, you clearly don't want to, but you definitely can.

It's your career, no one here has a magic answer. Mass mail and hope for the best but otherwise prepare for hundreds of thousands of lost income over your career. I hope the trip is worth it.


So, the point of these boards is to give advice to people who have not gone through this process before. I have not gone through this process before so I am trying to figure out the best solution to this problem. I'm not advocating for one position or the other; I'm just trying to see what I can do.

The best solution is the one you don't want to hear.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby de5igual » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:57 pm

redsoxfaan3 wrote:
2014 wrote:You literally can make it, you clearly don't want to, but you definitely can.

It's your career, no one here has a magic answer. Mass mail and hope for the best but otherwise prepare for hundreds of thousands of lost income over your career. I hope the trip is worth it.


So, the point of these boards is to give advice to people who have not gone through this process before. I have not gone through this process before so I am trying to figure out the best solution to this problem. I'm not advocating for one position or the other; I'm just trying to see what I can do.


The best solution (and really, the only solution) is to not go on this trip. It's not what you want to hear, but there's really no other way about it.

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Postby Myself » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:58 pm

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby NotMyRealName09 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:05 pm

This is an odd topic. Do you not understand that in law school, the ENTIRE FRICKEN SYSTEM is setup so that those with superior 1L grades land superior jobs at OCI? The entire thing.

YOU ARE SCREWING YOURSELF AND NOTHING YOU DO CAN MITIGATE THE HARM YOU ARE DOING TO YOUR CAREER PROSPECTS.

You're a fricken adult. You say "no, I can't, it will ruin my career prospects. I'm sorry [whatever family thing is calling] is happening, but that time is simply the single most important time to be present in law school. I am dooming my lifelong earning power if I skip that. I worked hard my 1L year, earned top grades, and if I skip OCI, I have wasted all that hard work."

Jesus, this can't be a real post. I don't feel bad saying this - if you skip this, for ANY reason, you're a fricken jackass. You are potentially costing yourself hundreds of thousands of dollars. Don't be fucking stupid.

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Re: Have to Miss OCI b/c of International Family Trip

Postby chuckbass » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:05 pm

It sounds like you "have" to go because it's already paid for, but even if it was really expensive, if your family wastes a few thousand dollars that's well worth it for you to have a good chance at gainful employment which you can use to pay them back. And yes, the point of these boards is advice: DO OCI.




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