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3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:42 am

Thoughts? Also, how do I deal with this Mayer Brown situation?

1. Mayer Brown LLP (Chicago)
2. Mayer Brown LLP (NY)
3. Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
4. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP
5. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
6. Winston & Strawn LLP
7. Chadbourne & Parke LLP
8. Brown Rudnick LLP
9. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
10. Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
11. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
12. Shearman & Sterling LLP
13. Clifford Chance US LLP
14. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
15. Kaye Scholer LLP
16. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
17. Proskauer LLP
18. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
19. Wilkie Farr & Gallagher
20. Dechert LLP
21. Greenberg Traurig LLP
22. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
23. Allen & Overy LLP
24. Foley & Lardner LLP (Chicago)
25. Paul Hastings
26. Linklaters LLP
27. Sidley Austin LLP
28. Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
29. Seward & Kissel LLP
30. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP
31. Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
32. DLA Piper
33. Hogan Lovells
34. White & Case LLP
35. Davis Polk & Wardwell
36. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
37. Cleary, Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
38. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
39. Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian, LLP
40. Baker & Hostetler LLP

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:35 pm

Mayer Brown NYC actually doesn't look like too much of a reach given past OCI data. You're a bit on the low end for a lot of these firms but you can probably swing it to NYC and Chicago if you've got ties. Philly too. This looks like a pretty decent bid list all around, with most of your reaches near the bottom.

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby mr.hands » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Mayer Brown NYC actually doesn't look like too much of a reach given past OCI data. You're a bit on the low end for a lot of these firms but you can probably swing it to NYC and Chicago if you've got ties. Philly too. This looks like a pretty decent bid list all around, with most of your reaches near the bottom.


Yeah most of the firms you have ranked 31-40 are big reaches. Good to place those lower, some good ones up top. Talk to career services and see where most in your gpa range get offers

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:37 pm

Not OP, but at a peer school with similar grades and noticed that Mayer Brown had similarly low standards at our OCI. As in some of the lowest of any firms coming to OCI. Anyone know why that is?

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Not OP, but at a peer school with similar grades and noticed that Mayer Brown had similarly low standards at our OCI. As in some of the lowest of any firms coming to OCI. Anyone know why that is?

only the Chicago office is selective

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not OP, but at a peer school with similar grades and noticed that Mayer Brown had similarly low standards at our OCI. As in some of the lowest of any firms coming to OCI. Anyone know why that is?

only the Chicago office is selective

OP here. Any idea how much more selective the Chicago office is over the NYC office? Should I pick one over the other as my #1?

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:18 pm

Move the smaller firms and the firms that don't care about grades up (like Seward). Your career office will be telling everyone from above median on down to target these firms, plus they usually don't interview very many people to start with. If you don't have them up front, you won't get an interview.

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not OP, but at a peer school with similar grades and noticed that Mayer Brown had similarly low standards at our OCI. As in some of the lowest of any firms coming to OCI. Anyone know why that is?

only the Chicago office is selective

OP here. Any idea how much more selective the Chicago office is over the NYC office? Should I pick one over the other as my #1?

I'm not at Penn so I can't tell you how popular they are but I'd be pretty surprised if Mayer Chicago isn't available at #2

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:29 pm

GULC Data
Firms from NY and DC who make the majority of their offers to below-median students:

Alston & Bird (DC)
Baker & McKenzie (DC)
Baker Hostetler (DC)
Bryan Cave (DC)
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft (DC)
Chadbourne & Parke (DC)
Dewey & LeBoeuf (DC)
Dickstein Shapiro (DC)
Holland & Knight (DC)
Hollingsworth (DC)
Kaye Scholer (DC)
Keller and Heckman (DC)
Kelley Drye & Warren (DC)
McKenna Long & Aldridge (DC)
Nixon Peabody (DC)
Reed Smith (DC)
Sutherland (DC)
Venable (DC)
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld (NY)
Baker & McKenzie (NY)
Bingham McCutchen (NY)
Chadbourne & Parke (NY)
Clifford Chance (NY)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle (NY)
DLA Piper (NY)
Kelley Drye & Warren (NY)
Linklaters (NY)
Mayer Brown (NY)
McDermott Will & Emery (NY)
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius (NY)
Otterbourg, Steindler, Houston & Rosen (NY)
Schulte Roth & Zabel (NY)
Seward & Kissel (NY)
Winston & Strawn (NY)

these are firms whose median offer is below 3.3

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:22 pm

I had a 3.11 GPA at Penn in 2011 OCI. I struck out. I recommend you starting to apply outside of OCI asap. My mistake was relying only on OCI and starting to apply outside of OCI only after mid-Sept. By then, most firms have already finished hiring or moved on to callback stages. It was really tough to be so late in the game. Don't repeat my mistake.

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:GULC Data
Firms from NY and DC who make the majority of their offers to below-median students:


I'd check to make sure this isn't confidential if I were you

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:42 pm

OP again. Here's another shot:

1. Mayer Brown LLP
2. Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
3. Seward & Kissel LLP
4. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
5. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP
6. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
7. Winston & Strawn LLP
8. Chadbourne & Parke LLP
9. Brown Rudnick LLP
10. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
11. Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP
12. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
13. Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
14. Shearman & Sterling LLP
15. Clifford Chance US LLP
16. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
17. Kaye Scholer LLP
18. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
19. Proskauer LLP
20. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
21. Wilkie Farr & Gallagher
22. Dechert LLP
23. Greenberg Traurig LLP
24. Allen & Overy LLP
25. Foley & Lardner LLP
26. Paul Hastings
27. Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
28. DLA Piper
29. Hogan Lovells
30. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP
31. Linklaters LLP
32. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
33. Sidley Austin LLP
34. Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
35. White & Case LLP
36. Davis Polk & Wardwell
37. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
38. Cleary, Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
39. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
40. Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian, LLP

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Re: 3.12 GPA, Penn Bidlist

Postby HeavenWood » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:13 am

Anonymous User wrote:OP again. Here's another shot:

1. Mayer Brown LLP
2. Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
3. Seward & Kissel LLP
4. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
5. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP
6. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP
7. Winston & Strawn LLP
8. Chadbourne & Parke LLP
9. Brown Rudnick LLP
10. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP
11. Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP
12. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP
13. Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
14. Shearman & Sterling LLP
15. Clifford Chance US LLP
16. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
17. Kaye Scholer LLP
18. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP
19. Proskauer LLP
20. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
21. Wilkie Farr & Gallagher
22. Dechert LLP
23. Greenberg Traurig LLP
24. Allen & Overy LLP
25. Foley & Lardner LLP
26. Paul Hastings
27. Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
28. DLA Piper
29. Hogan Lovells
30. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP
31. Linklaters LLP
32. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP
33. Sidley Austin LLP
34. Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
35. White & Case LLP
36. Davis Polk & Wardwell
37. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
38. Cleary, Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton
39. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
40. Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian, LLP

Looks solid to me, but to echo the other poster, you cannot rely on OCI. Scour the resume collects, mass-mail the shit out of secondary markets to which you have solid ties, leverage connections early and often...

Feel free to PM me. I was in a similar situation and can give you additional advice on what, and what not to do.




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