Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Other T6 student who is struggling dropping in here. I am the type of person you describe (or so I like to think) -- sane but hard-working, and I'm friendly but I do not BS or pass the buck. However, it seems that people who it would be terrible to work with (and I know, from forced group work) are the ones raking in the callbacks and offers. Difference? Them = white guy, me = asian female. Honestly, do the stereotypes of 'quiet' asian women affect your thinking at all? in the sense that they might have to overcompensate by being extra loud or something? Because I'm starting to think that 'good interviewing' means tall and loud.
Just to chime in --- the people who are struggling all seem to point to some external factor (bad luck, Asian, quiet, whatever). Here's the thing: EIP is a closed system. There are 400 CLS students (or, with transfers, maybe more like 800) interviewing with firms. Interviewers get a certain number of callbacks to give to the people they interview. The math is pretty simple. If you didn't get a callback, the interviewer thought too many people were better than you. Maybe its your grades, maybe its your resume, maybe its your interview, or maybe it does have something to do with luck (the interviewer was in a shitty mood right before you went in). In the end, luck isn't the difference between getting 10 CBs and getting 2. There are also plenty of quiet, introverted people who are successful in big law.
If I were struggling, I'd think about what I could do differently, not the impact of stereotypes / luck.
You really think I haven't tried to improve my interviewing? Of course I have. I still believe that the tall white dudes have an inherent advantage over me though, even if I am smarter and more outgoing outside of the interview process. Your comment totally disregards that and sounds like "pull yourself up by the bootstraps."
The thing is that "tall white dudes" have most likely spent a lifetime being at the top of the social hierarchy, so they'll probably have acquired a sense of confidence and ease that minorities and women often lack in some way. It's probably not the interviewers explicitly discriminating in favour of these people, but it still reflects the obvious tilted playing field in society (and not just in the narrow world of OCI).
Tall, Loud Black Guy here from T6 not Columbia. All B's and one B-. Great work experience and softs.
26 Screeners, 7 CBs (1 V20, 3 V50s 2 V100s and 1 non Vault firm that pays market.) 1 Offer so far and 3 CBS left to complete this week. FWIW.