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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ding from DPW GR. And to (sort of) answer an above poster's question, I'm getting a lot of silence as well (I've only heard back from around four or five firms out of around twenty), but I don't think we need to panic yet, especially if (but not necessarily only if) your interview schedule was backloaded. Anyway, I'll keep posting info about my dings and CBs to be helpful. Oh, and congratulations on surviving screeners, everyone!


Five callbacks out of twenty is not "silence." Saying that is only going to make people on this ridiculous thread even more worried. If you look at the 2012 eip results it looks like most callback rates run in the ballpark of 25-40% of interviewees, and not all of your callbacks have even come in yet, so you are in fine shape. All you need is one offer.

If you think you're behind, the most important thing you can do is have the right attitude going forward. If and when you get a callback, invest EVERYTHING in that callback interview. Callback usually means you made their GPA cutoff and now they are evaluating you for fit and for your interest in that firm, factors that are within your control.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:23 pm

Dentons CB from LP

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ding from DPW GR. And to (sort of) answer an above poster's question, I'm getting a lot of silence as well (I've only heard back from around four or five firms out of around twenty), but I don't think we need to panic yet, especially if (but not necessarily only if) your interview schedule was backloaded. Anyway, I'll keep posting info about my dings and CBs to be helpful. Oh, and congratulations on surviving screeners, everyone!


Five callbacks out of twenty is not "silence." Saying that is only going to make people on this ridiculous thread even more worried. If you look at the 2012 eip results it looks like most callback rates run in the ballpark of 25-40% of interviewees, and not all of your callbacks have even come in yet, so you are in fine shape. All you need is one offer.

If you think you're behind, the most important thing you can do is have the right attitude going forward. If and when you get a callback, invest EVERYTHING in that callback interview. Callback usually means you made their GPA cutoff and now they are evaluating you for fit and for your interest in that firm, factors that are within your control.


I'm not OP, but OP said they got a ding and only heard back from four/five firms out of twenty... not that they have four/five callbacks.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:42 pm

Callback at WilmerHale Boston (JH)

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Gibson AF.

Anyone hear either way from Deb. JH?


Was AF also with JO?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:04 pm

Pillsbury (mm) cb

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:10 pm

Kirkland cb (AH, AE)

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland cb (AH, AE)


Just now?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:15 pm

Has anyone heard from Paul Hastings (JS) or Stroock Stroock Levan?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
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Just now?


Within the last hour

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from Paul Hastings (JS) or Stroock Stroock Levan?


Stroock CB (TW)

Anyone Paul Hastings LK?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:30 pm

Anyone hear from S&C (NB, JS) or Cahill (EK)?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Ding from DPW GR. And to (sort of) answer an above poster's question, I'm getting a lot of silence as well (I've only heard back from around four or five firms out of around twenty), but I don't think we need to panic yet, especially if (but not necessarily only if) your interview schedule was backloaded. Anyway, I'll keep posting info about my dings and CBs to be helpful. Oh, and congratulations on surviving screeners, everyone!


Five callbacks out of twenty is not "silence." Saying that is only going to make people on this ridiculous thread even more worried. If you look at the 2012 eip results it looks like most callback rates run in the ballpark of 25-40% of interviewees, and not all of your callbacks have even come in yet, so you are in fine shape. All you need is one offer.

If you think you're behind, the most important thing you can do is have the right attitude going forward. If and when you get a callback, invest EVERYTHING in that callback interview. Callback usually means you made their GPA cutoff and now they are evaluating you for fit and for your interest in that firm, factors that are within your control.


No offense, but I don't really get the attitude here. Yes, people are worried. Yes, we're all neurotic and on edge right now. Of course people will invest time and effort into callbacks, but I think it is silly to think that callbacks are (outside of grades) a totally different animal. Some firms hire a high percentage of the people they invite for callbacks, but many are at around 50% or below.

I guess what I'm saying is, even though you seem to think you're being nice there, you're being pretty patronizing and diminishing the real concerns that someone else might have. We don't need that.

To the poster whose concerns sparked this, it might be alarming to be sitting without many or any callbacks right now, but we're through EIP so we should not waste time worrying about what has already happened. Hopefully you'll hear something positive and you'll be able to plan for those interviews. If you haven't already, you might want to consider mailing firms that you did interview with through EIP and firms in smaller markets.

The 3L students we've seen for the past few days are real people too. It's arrogant to think that they made some huge fixable mistake that you can easily avoid through effort and charm. This thread isn't about gunning for prestige or showing off, it's a resource for us to use during a stressful process.

Let's be excellent here.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:50 pm

As one of those 3Ls, the above post is pretty spot-on. Don't worry if you've got nothing yet, things may still be coming up, some firms even from last week, especially in other markets, won't have had their hiring committee meetings yet. But don't confuse "don't worry" for "don't get prepared." Everyone should be prepared for any number of crazy results. Draft a cover letter that should be ready for some mass mailings. Just as importantly, everyone should be sensitive to the stress and frustrations this time brings for everyone, and seek to be helpful and supportive in whatever way possible.

Also be aware of the resources available to you: OCS is somewhat helpful in getting interviews for you after EIP; friends, especially those who have faced a bit more of the difficult facets of this, will likely be more than happy to give you some suggestions.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:59 pm

Anyone hear from STB (JB)?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:57 pm

Or from STB (JM)?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:57 pm

Dechert CB (2 interviewers, forget initials)

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Or from STB (JM)?

Nothing yet for me.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:05 pm

Wachtell CB

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Wachtell CB


Mind sharing initials?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:21 pm

Anyone hear from Cahill (AM)?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear from Cahill (AM)?


Yeah, CB from AM at Cahill Sunday night I think.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:42 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Wachtell CB


Mind sharing initials?


JM

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:14 pm

Anyone heard from Shearman CS?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:33 pm

Nothing from Cahill EK. Ding from Weil AH.




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