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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Would appreciate any last minute tips. I think I selected a good mix of firms, but I'm not really sure about the ordering (and may have missed some that I should be bidding on), so they're basically just ordered by amount of interviews divided by amount of bids from last year. I'm right at median, non-URM, secondary journal, no work experience, leaning towards litigation and labor/employment law, but not 100% set on it or anything.

1. Proskauer Rose
2. Shearman & Sterling
3. Sidley Austin
4. Arnold Porter
5. Kirkland & Ellis
6. Morrison & Foerster
7. Mayer Brown
8. Hogan Lovells
9. Gibson Dunn
10. Wilmerhale
11. Ropes & Gray
12. Paul Hastings
13. Jones Day
14. Kaye Scholer
15. Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
16. White & Case
17. Morgan Lewis & Bockius
18. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson
19. Weil Gotshal & Manges
20. Holland & Knight
21. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman
22. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
23. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft
24. Davis Polk & Wardwell
25. Chadbourne & Parke
26. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman
27. Cahill Gordon & Reindel
28. Schulte Roth & Zabel
29. Dechert
30. Hughes Hubbard & Reed

Thanks!

-Stan Rizzo


Hey Stan!

Your comparative rankings (like, one firm to another) look good, but I think you're targeting too many bid-competitive firms. As it stands I don't know if you'd have much of a shot at anything below a certain mark because most of the firms you're bidding on are highly sought after.

Maybe you should pick some of the firms you really want from your top twenty, remove some of the others and shift everything up. (and then fill in the bottom with less popular firms) Doing so might help you pick up some more interviews.

-Ted "Theodore" Logan

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Would appreciate any last minute tips. I think I selected a good mix of firms, but I'm not really sure about the ordering (and may have missed some that I should be bidding on), so they're basically just ordered by amount of interviews divided by amount of bids from last year. I'm right at median, non-URM, secondary journal, no work experience, leaning towards litigation and labor/employment law, but not 100% set on it or anything.

1. Proskauer Rose
2. Shearman & Sterling
3. Sidley Austin
4. Arnold Porter
5. Kirkland & Ellis
6. Morrison & Foerster
7. Mayer Brown
8. Hogan Lovells
9. Gibson Dunn
10. Wilmerhale
11. Ropes & Gray
12. Paul Hastings
13. Jones Day
14. Kaye Scholer
15. Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
16. White & Case
17. Morgan Lewis & Bockius
18. Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson
19. Weil Gotshal & Manges
20. Holland & Knight
21. Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman
22. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
23. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft
24. Davis Polk & Wardwell
25. Chadbourne & Parke
26. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman
27. Cahill Gordon & Reindel
28. Schulte Roth & Zabel
29. Dechert
30. Hughes Hubbard & Reed

Thanks!

-Stan Rizzo


OCS told me Mayer brown had to be top-4

I'd also suggest dropping Gibson, a grade selective firm, who you are unlikely to get at 9
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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:47 pm

Thanks for the tips! I'll move some things around. Unfortunately I just finished meeting with an OCS person and they were incredibly unhelpful, ugh.

-Stan Rizzo
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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Thanks for the tips! I'll move some things around. Unfortunately I just finished meeting with an OCS person and they were incredibly helpful, ugh.

-Stan Rizzo


Any chance they told you where to put Ropes?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:02 pm

Sorry, just edited my post to correctly say "unhelpful." Unfortunately she didn't really answer any of my questions about placement, just said that my list looked good over all.

-SR

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:01 pm

Not a current Columbia student, but I would really appreciate if you guys could provide some advice on my transfer thread here? Thanks so much for your help.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:50 pm

10 minutes until EIP schedules, who's excited?

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:07 pm

25 interviews.

Missed Sidley at 5, Hogan at 9 and MoFo LA at 17.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:08 pm

Got 24. Got my first 17, but I missed CSM at 27.

Have all the V10 minus CSM (obviously) and didn't bid Wachtell.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:11 pm

Got 22 interviews so I can't really complain, but disappointed I missed Shearman at 3 and Gibson at 6.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:18 pm

Would people mind sharing where they got Skadden NY? I thought I had it high enough but I guess not.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:19 pm

Only 17. Basically didn't get any of the firms I put after 20, except for Kelley Drye and Warren which was 30th. Hopefully I can add a couple on Wednesday.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:21 pm

I got Skadden at 4.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I got Skadden at 4.


same

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:24 pm

Got 23, just dropped a MoFo and a Kasowitz if anyone wants them.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I got Skadden at 4.


Same here.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:35 pm

Damn only 16! Only NY though.
Hopefully can add a few more during add/drop

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:44 pm

Got 21, didn't miss anyone that I cared about interviewing with and was pretty aggressive -- here's some highlights for sake of people next year:

Firms I got (bid)
Wilkie (12)
Paul Weiss (11)
Cleary (9)
Weil (8)
DPW (7)
Freshfields (10)
Fried Frank (17)
Debevoise (5)
Gibson Dunn (4)
STB (14)
S&C (6)
Linklaters (2)
Skadden (3)

Firms I missed
White and Case (13)
Kaye Scholer (19)
Covington NY (22)
MoFo NY (23)
Orrick NY (26)
Goodwin Proctor (29)

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:05 pm

Got Skadden at 5. Also got Cravath at 26, Cahill at 18, Cadwalader at 19.

Missed Sidley at 4, Weil at 14, Milbank at 15, Paul Weiss at 21. Got Cravath at 26, Cahill at 18, Cadwalader at 19.

Edit: Also missed K&E NY at 3.
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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:10 pm

This is the beginning of my own list of bids by success/failure for next year's bidders. I'll probably add more to this later.

Firms I got (bid)
DPW (18)
Fried Frank (19)
MoFo NY (14)

Firms I missed (bid)
Gibson Dunn (6)
Skadden (9)
Kaye Scholer (10)

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:51 pm

I didn't get Proskauer at #1...

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:00 pm

Should I drop interviews?

Following the advice of people on here, I bid fairly conservatively (in bid ratios, if not grade selectivity) and now have 27 interviews (10 on one day). I'll post where I got/missed some in a few minutes, but right now I'm trying to decide how many/which ones to drop.

I have two pairs that are only 5 minutes apart. Do I need to drop one of those? Just how exhausting are these interviews anyway?

-B.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Should I drop interviews?

Following the advice of people on here, I bid fairly conservatively (in bid ratios, if not grade selectivity) and now have 27 interviews (10 on one day). I'll post where I got/missed some in a few minutes, but right now I'm trying to decide how many/which ones to drop.

I have two pairs that are only 5 minutes apart. Do I need to drop one of those? Just how exhausting are these interviews anyway?

-B.


I am in a very similar situation (27 interviews; 10 on one day) and I'm trying to figure the same thing out. I'm not a fan of the 5 minutes apart thing, but for my pairing I'm really interested in both firms. I'm not sure what to do.

Guidance from anyone is appreciated.

-Ted "Theodore" Logan

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:35 pm

I have three in a row and am going to drop the middle one because it's one of the firms I'm least interested in. That said I really doubt the 20 minute interviews themselves are exhausting, but 10 in a day could get a little rough.

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Re: Columbia Law School EIP 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:32 am

For people next year (and providing more transparency) I'm going to post my full bid results. I hope others will do the same.

Here are the firms I got and where I bid them.

1 Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (New York, NY)
2 Shearman & Sterling LLP (New York, NY)
3 Mayer Brown LLP (New York, NY)
4 WilmerHale LLP (New York, NY)
5 Ropes & Gray (New York, NY)
6 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY)
7 White & Case LLP (New York, NY)

9 Jenner & Block LLP (New York, NY)
10 Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)
11 Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
12 Fulbright & Jaworski LLP (New York, NY) (Now Norton Rose Fulbright, as of June 3, 2013)
13 Reed Smith LLP (New York, NY)
14 Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP (New York, NY)
15 K&L Gates LLP (New York, NY)
16 King & Spalding (New York, NY)
17 Covington & Burling (New York, NY)
18 Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP (New York, NY)
19 Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (New York, NY)
20 Crowell & Moring LLP (New York, NY)
21 Dechert LLP (New York, NY)
22 O'Melveny & [deleted] LLP (New York, NY)
23 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY)
24 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (New York, NY)
25 Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP (New York, NY)
26 Bryan Cave LLP (New York, NY)

28 Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY)
29 Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler LLP (New York, NY)
30 Sutherland LLP (New York, NY)


And then the ones I missed:

8 Sidley Austin LLP (New York, NY)
27 Goodwin Procter LLP (New York, NY)

-B.




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