Did the hiring partner lie to me?

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Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat May 25, 2013 7:50 am

I'm a 2L summer associate at a regional firm of about 100 attorneys. The firm only has about 5 SA's. Before I accepted my offer I had checked NALP to see their past offer rate for eligible 2L SA's and at that time it was something like 4/5.

I checked again today and with the updated 2012 information it is 1/5. This information is shocking to me because I had asked the hiring partner about no-offers, and he only mentioned that they no-offered 1 SA because of poor work product. He completely didn't mention that they didn't offer 4/5 SA's from last summer. Did the hiring partner lie to me? Am I reading the nalp form wrong?

At this point, what should I be doing? I feel deceived and am also panicking at the thought of not having an offer at the end of this summer.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby rad lulz » Sat May 25, 2013 9:15 am

He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby target » Sat May 25, 2013 11:03 am

rad lulz wrote:He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens


agree to everything except you should put together a plan B right now.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby rad lulz » Sat May 25, 2013 11:19 am

target wrote:
rad lulz wrote:He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens


agree to everything except you should put together a plan B right now.

The only Plan B you can srsly think about right now is applying for clerkships (if you're competitive) and signing up for 3LOLCI so go ahead and do that

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Sat May 25, 2013 11:51 am

rad lulz wrote:
target wrote:
rad lulz wrote:He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens


agree to everything except you should put together a plan B right now.

The only Plan B you can srsly think about right now is applying for clerkships (if you're competitive) and signing up for 3LOLCI so go ahead and do that

Both of which any SA should be doing anyway.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby rad lulz » Sat May 25, 2013 11:57 am

dixiecupdrinking wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
target wrote:
rad lulz wrote:He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens


agree to everything except you should put together a plan B right now.

The only Plan B you can srsly think about right now is applying for clerkships (if you're competitive) and signing up for 3LOLCI so go ahead and do that

Both of which any SA should be doing anyway.

Pretty much

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon May 27, 2013 8:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm a 2L summer associate at a regional firm of about 100 attorneys. The firm only has about 5 SA's. Before I accepted my offer I had checked NALP to see their past offer rate for eligible 2L SA's and at that time it was something like 4/5.

I checked again today and with the updated 2012 information it is 1/5. This information is shocking to me because I had asked the hiring partner about no-offers, and he only mentioned that they no-offered 1 SA because of poor work product. He completely didn't mention that they didn't offer 4/5 SA's from last summer. Did the hiring partner lie to me? Am I reading the nalp form wrong?

At this point, what should I be doing? I feel deceived and am also panicking at the thought of not having an offer at the end of this summer.


Maybe. You'll learn from the junior associates about last year's summers soon enough. Nonetheless, it will not help you at all to go in there with a pissy mood about it, even if the guy is a complete scumbag that screwed over your career. Do your best work and hope for the best.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby 09042014 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:01 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
target wrote:
rad lulz wrote:He could have lied, or they may not have given 2012 offers yet

Well you can't get another SA

So your plan is the same now as it was before

Do the best work you can

If you don't get an offer you can come up with a plan IF it happens


agree to everything except you should put together a plan B right now.

The only Plan B you can srsly think about right now is applying for clerkships (if you're competitive) and signing up for 3LOLCI so go ahead and do that

Both of which any SA should be doing anyway.


D.BFE isn't worth for most people.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby rad lulz » Mon May 27, 2013 9:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:D.BFE isn't worth for most people.

wat

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Mon May 27, 2013 10:19 pm

Desert Fox wrote:D.BFE isn't worth for most people.

sup

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby Old Gregg » Mon May 27, 2013 11:06 pm

Assumes NALP form is correct...

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby target » Wed May 29, 2013 9:01 pm

rad lulz wrote:The only Plan B you can srsly think about right now is applying for clerkships (if you're competitive) and signing up for 3LOLCI so go ahead and do that


Attending local bar association social events, maintaining my contacts at firms in different regions, looking for job opportunities in PI field or govt are the few things I am doing in addition to what you've suggested.

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Re: Did the hiring partner lie to me?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 29, 2013 9:10 pm

Sometimes people lie, it sucks, but it happens.

Need proof that being a seasoned lawyer, Prof, hiring officer, or even a Judge means jack as far as that goes?

Look up "Judge Arrested" in a search engine...................not even that rare is the really jacked up part of it.

So in caveat, yeah dude you may have gotten hosed bro.




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