Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Very, VERY excited. 11 cb's thus far.

I really hope everyone starts hearing good news soon!

So THAT'S where all the CB's went. Congrats. What market(s)? Also, that's 11 out of ho wmany PS'S?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:CBs today:

MoFo (email)/ Cooley (call) / Paul Hastings (call) / Kilpatrick (call)

which KT office if you don't mind?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Question: I got called for a CB on Thursday by one of the partners that interviewed me. He said his assistant would be in contact to schedule interview. I haven't heard from her yet, when do I reach out? The woman he mentioned is the recruiting contact on the nalp form.

Are you fucking kidding? Call her NOW !!!

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Forgive the ignorance of this... But to those that have been given CB's, how did the call go? Did they offer you a CB and you have a certain time to accept and arrange the CB?

Also, to those w/ multiple CB's, are you accepting all of your CB's?

IME, they almost always have called, although they do both. Can either be the interviewer or recruiting coordinator. Usually they just ask if you want in. A CB is just an interview, its not like you're accepting a job offer. If they are flying you in they'll work with you on the schedule from there.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Forgive the ignorance of this... But to those that have been given CB's, how did the call go? Did they offer you a CB and you have a certain time to accept and arrange the CB?

Also, to those w/ multiple CB's, are you accepting all of your CB's?



The most common situation for me has been a brief call from the person I interviewed with, basically just giving me the recruiting manager's contact information and asking me to call them to set up the interview, which then ends up being a lot of back-and-forth emailing. I was not given any time limits for arranging them, but obviously sooner is better (for you).

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Forgive the ignorance of this... But to those that have been given CB's, how did the call go? Did they offer you a CB and you have a certain time to accept and arrange the CB?

Also, to those w/ multiple CB's, are you accepting all of your CB's?



The most common situation for me has been a brief call from the person I interviewed with, basically just giving me the recruiting manager's contact information and asking me to call them to set up the interview, which then ends up being a lot of back-and-forth emailing. I was not given any time limits for arranging them, but obviously sooner is better (for you).

Seems like all the CB's are going to the same three guys.........

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:13 pm

Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:--
CB today from Paul Hastings, Troutman Sanders, Desmarais, and Latham, all by phone.

congrats man!! was your latham cb for transactional or litigation?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:20 pm

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CB today from Paul Hastings, Troutman Sanders, Desmarais, and Latham, all by phone.

congrats man!! was your latham cb for transactional or litigation?


Thanks! Technically neither, as I wasn't preselected. Just stopped by the hospitality suite on Thurs and got an email that night asking me to interview Friday. I expressed interest in litigation though.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:21 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Question: I got called for a CB on Thursday by one of the partners that interviewed me. He said his assistant would be in contact to schedule interview. I haven't heard from her yet, when do I reach out? The woman he mentioned is the recruiting contact on the nalp form.

Are you fucking kidding? Call her NOW !!!

uh oh...I got a CB on friday, and I -thought- the interviewer told me recruiting would be in touch with me by email. I haven't heard anything yet and now I'm worried I misunderstood (it was right before another interview so I was kind of frazzled). Should I also be reaching out to recruiting? I'm almost positive I did not get any recruiter information though.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:22 pm

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CB today from Paul Hastings, Troutman Sanders, Desmarais, and Latham, all by phone.

congrats man!! was your latham cb for transactional or litigation?


Thanks! Technically neither, as I wasn't preselected. Just stopped by the hospitality suite on Thurs and got an email that night asking me to interview Friday. I expressed interest in litigation though.

I see, nice hustle. Do you mind saying who you interviewed with?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Question: I got called for a CB on Thursday by one of the partners that interviewed me. He said his assistant would be in contact to schedule interview. I haven't heard from her yet, when do I reach out? The woman he mentioned is the recruiting contact on the nalp form.

Are you fucking kidding? Call her NOW !!!

Seriously? I figure they are scheduling lots of CBs, maybe I'm just lower in the pile? Why in the world would I get a call from a partner and nothing? Seems awfully pushy, its been 2 days, not 2 weeks.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby 09042014 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby 09042014 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:37 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Question: I got called for a CB on Thursday by one of the partners that interviewed me. He said his assistant would be in contact to schedule interview. I haven't heard from her yet, when do I reach out? The woman he mentioned is the recruiting contact on the nalp form.

Are you fucking kidding? Call her NOW !!!

Seriously? I figure they are scheduling lots of CBs, maybe I'm just lower in the pile? Why in the world would I get a call from a partner and nothing? Seems awfully pushy, its been 2 days, not 2 weeks.


You are right. Especially this early, some firms aren't even ready to do CBs yet.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:50 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Question: I got called for a CB on Thursday by one of the partners that interviewed me. He said his assistant would be in contact to schedule interview. I haven't heard from her yet, when do I reach out? The woman he mentioned is the recruiting contact on the nalp form.

Are you fucking kidding? Call her NOW !!!

Seriously? I figure they are scheduling lots of CBs, maybe I'm just lower in the pile? Why in the world would I get a call from a partner and nothing? Seems awfully pushy, its been 2 days, not 2 weeks.


You are right. Especially this early, some firms aren't even ready to do CBs yet.


That makes me feel better. I'll actually be out of town all this week. They aren't going to rescind the offer, and I'm local, so I'm probably easier to schedule. I figure if I haven't heard by Weds/Thursday I'll email her.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby kyle010723 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:52 pm

It does sound like NY firms are scheduling CBs before everyone else. Someone mentioned a few from Chicago, but NY is way ahead it seems

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:03 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.


So.... as far as "cattle call" v. "rubber stamp," I've got one call back so far and its from Fitzpatrick, does anybody know whether or not they fall into the "cattle call" category or the "rubber stamp" category? Because I would love for it to to be the latter, obviously...

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:05 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.

So, does a CB have a different feel than a screener (ecept fo the time)? Got a CB this Thursday with a firm that's way above my GPA (won't even bid on them at OCI). If I get a CB, am I on equal footing with all those others with higher GPA's?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby mityt » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:09 pm

It seems as if one person has heard from Sterne Kessler, anyone else? If so, what practice area?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:12 pm

mityt wrote:It seems as if one person has heard from Sterne Kessler, anyone else? If so, what practice area?

I got a call earlier today too. I interviewed for the Electrical practice area.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.


So.... as far as "cattle call" v. "rubber stamp," I've got one call back so far and its from Fitzpatrick, does anybody know whether or not they fall into the "cattle call" category or the "rubber stamp" category? Because I would love for it to to be the latter, obviously...

Do you mind saying who you interviewed with at Fitzpatrick?

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby r6_philly » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.


In my experience last year, the Loyola callbacks seem to have much worse ratios than my OCI callbacks. I went on several Loyola callbacks where they brought in more than a handful (like 5-10) of people for 1 or 2 available spots (because IP summers are under a separate quota).

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby 09042014 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:28 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.


In my experience last year, the Loyola callbacks seem to have much worse ratios than my OCI callbacks. I went on several Loyola callbacks where they brought in more than a handful (like 5-10) of people for 1 or 2 available spots (because IP summers are under a separate quota).


I had better luck at loyola, it's probably just random.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby r6_philly » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Are we ready to talk about CB's to Offer prospects yet? Is the process different? anyone trying to trip us up?


Nationwide, not just IP, the rate is like 40% on average. Some firms cattle call, others are basically rubber stamps, but 40% is about right. It's definitely not yours to lose, but it's not a longshot either.

However, bad interviewers do a lot worse than 40% and good interviews do a lot better. So don't count on anything. There is no "safe" number of callbacks.

So, does a CB have a different feel than a screener (ecept fo the time)? Got a CB this Thursday with a firm that's way above my GPA (won't even bid on them at OCI). If I get a CB, am I on equal footing with all those others with higher GPA's?


Many firms segregate their IP and general summers, so IP summers are hold to a different standard. At those firms, you may be under qualifed for OCI/general summer but well qualified for IP summers. When you do IP callbacks you may meet with most (if not all) IP attorneys. And you may be confined to IP practice only if hired, even during the summer. Or maybe they will let you rotate/take assignments from other groups but you will only be considered for a permanent position with the IP group. This is obviously very firm dependent.

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Re: Loyola PLIP 2013: Brace yourselves...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:30 pm

Desert Fox wrote:You are right. Especially this early, some firms aren't even ready to do CBs yet.

So, if NYC firms start CB's early, does that mean that the offer (or ding) comes quickly afterward?




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