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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:58 pm

Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby ph14 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


No, and your call. I'd take the paid position anyday, personally.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby 005618502 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


Same phone call. What school you at? PM me if you want

To answer your question... I would say the DOJ thing will help if you dont have ties to DC whereas the Texas thing will not.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


Just an FYI, if you get a 1L at FJ, and accept, you bind yourself to do at least half your 2L summer there as well.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:00 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


Just an FYI, if you get a 1L at FJ, and accept, you bind yourself to do at least half your 2L summer there as well.

OP here, thanks, didnt know that, might be a problem if i get dc 2L SA

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:03 pm

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AssumptionRequired wrote:Also got a couple snail mail. My first snail mail ding from an office I was pretty hopeful for too


Legit ding or sorry no 1Ls ding?


Yeah, it was legit. Seemed to imply they were only looking for minority candidates without saying it. I am at a T14, have WE in that market and had a perfect GPA from the major university there... so I dont think it was an individual thing.


Same anon. Okay. I haven't had any legit dings yet, just a handful of no 1Ls. But I am also minority, so I'm not precluded from that consideration.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

OP here. Got an issue

So I'm not planning on being back to texas over break and FJ isnt paying me to go so I have to pay for the plane ticket (I'm in the northeast). FJ said to call back by the end of the week to let them know of my plans

However, I also applied to Baker Botts and Vinson in texas and from what I hear, I may have a decent chance of getting an interview there.

But thats the problem, I dont wanna book a ticket to texas now since if I do get a interview from them I have to change my flight plans entirely. Is there any way for me to talk to FJ about this (like, can I actually call them and tell them this)? To either buy more time or something...

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby 2014 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:43 pm

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2014 wrote:Personalized partner response with invitation to schedule a visit to a firm where I'll be introduced to some attorneys and learn more about the firm.

Sounds like a kind of sort of call back, I'll take it :)


Congratulations! What firm (or at least what city)? I'm interested in Indy, Stl or KC.

One of those, PM me if you like

Grats to those guys with FJ interviews too. I haven't heard from them but would not be willing to fly myself to Texas anyway.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:15 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

OP here. Got an issue

So I'm not planning on being back to texas over break and FJ isnt paying me to go so I have to pay for the plane ticket (I'm in the northeast). FJ said to call back by the end of the week to let them know of my plans

However, I also applied to Baker Botts and Vinson in texas and from what I hear, I may have a decent chance of getting an interview there.

But thats the problem, I dont wanna book a ticket to texas now since if I do get a interview from them I have to change my flight plans entirely. Is there any way for me to talk to FJ about this (like, can I actually call them and tell them this)? To either buy more time or something...


I would not. Sounds like it would give off the vibe "dont want to fly out there just to interview with you"

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:44 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

OP here. Got an issue

So I'm not planning on being back to texas over break and FJ isnt paying me to go so I have to pay for the plane ticket (I'm in the northeast). FJ said to call back by the end of the week to let them know of my plans

However, I also applied to Baker Botts and Vinson in texas and from what I hear, I may have a decent chance of getting an interview there.

But thats the problem, I dont wanna book a ticket to texas now since if I do get a interview from them I have to change my flight plans entirely. Is there any way for me to talk to FJ about this (like, can I actually call them and tell them this)? To either buy more time or something...

You might have better luck calling BB & Vinson and telling them you're going to be in Texas on/around [whenever you arrange to go to FJ], and asking if they'd be interested in meeting with you at that time. Caveat: I've never done this with firms, but I know it works for clerkship interviews.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby seanPtheB » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:58 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


Just an FYI, if you get a 1L at FJ, and accept, you bind yourself to do at least half your 2L summer there as well.


I asked an OCS person about this at my school and she laughed at me and said they can't make you come back for 2L summer-she said what that means is you can't get a permanent offer without going back. So not sure this is true. Other people have knowledge on this?

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:16 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

OP here. Got an issue

So I'm not planning on being back to texas over break and FJ isnt paying me to go so I have to pay for the plane ticket (I'm in the northeast). FJ said to call back by the end of the week to let them know of my plans

However, I also applied to Baker Botts and Vinson in texas and from what I hear, I may have a decent chance of getting an interview there.

But thats the problem, I dont wanna book a ticket to texas now since if I do get a interview from them I have to change my flight plans entirely. Is there any way for me to talk to FJ about this (like, can I actually call them and tell them this)? To either buy more time or something...

You might have better luck calling BB & Vinson and telling them you're going to be in Texas on/around [whenever you arrange to go to FJ], and asking if they'd be interested in meeting with you at that time. Caveat: I've never done this with firms, but I know it works for clerkship interviews.

OP here, thanks. This is interesting, will probably ask my OCS person and see if this is ok and I'll do it.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year

OP here, got Baker Botts today. Same thing, texas market

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:03 pm

Rejected by Clifford Chance (NY)

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Rejected by Clifford Chance (NY)


i don't understand, I applied there right on the 1st and haven't heard a thing from them as well as about 35 others

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Rejected by Clifford Chance (NY)

Also rejected by Clifford Chance NY. YHS student with dual (European and US) citizenship. I'd be interested to know if anyone here who hasn't yet been rejected gets an interview. The email didn't explicitly state they don't hire 1Ls (as most of the rejection emails seem to).

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby koalatriste » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:14 pm

CC NY hires 1Ls. FYI.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:21 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Rejected by Clifford Chance (NY)

Also rejected by Clifford Chance NY. YHS student with dual (European and US) citizenship. I'd be interested to know if anyone here who hasn't yet been rejected gets an interview. The email didn't explicitly state they don't hire 1Ls (as most of the rejection emails seem to).


Who did you reach out to? Ms Conlon?

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:30 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Rejected by Clifford Chance (NY)

Also rejected by Clifford Chance NY. YHS student with dual (European and US) citizenship. I'd be interested to know if anyone here who hasn't yet been rejected gets an interview. The email didn't explicitly state they don't hire 1Ls (as most of the rejection emails seem to).

Who did you reach out to? Ms Conlon?

Yes.

Thanks for the info, koalatriste.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby BeenDidThat » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:36 pm

seanPtheB wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:Got offered a half day interview (callback???) for Fulbright and J. Out of the blue phone call, no email beforehand or screening interview, just when can you come for an interview.

Question. The location is in Texas but I dont want to work there for my career, rather I wanna be in DC. Will working in Texas this summer hurt me for 2L SA in DC? On a related note, if I get a DOJ thing in DC, would it be better to take that over a SA in TExas? I just dont want to hurt my chances for a DC SA 2L year


Just an FYI, if you get a 1L at FJ, and accept, you bind yourself to do at least half your 2L summer there as well.


I asked an OCS person about this at my school and she laughed at me and said they can't make you come back for 2L summer-she said what that means is you can't get a permanent offer without going back. So not sure this is true. Other people have knowledge on this?


Pretty sure you shouldn't fuck with a big firm if they make you sign any kind of contract.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:50 pm

Writing sample request from V&E. Wanted to wait till after finals to get that ready... darn

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Writing sample request from V&E. Wanted to wait till after finals to get that ready... darn

same here, sent it in since I had one already for the DOJ stuff I was applying for.

Also, I have not yet been dinged from CC in NY though I don't know why. No connections to NY really and average resume

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby 005618502 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Writing sample request from V&E. Wanted to wait till after finals to get that ready... darn

same here, sent it in since I had one already for the DOJ stuff I was applying for.

Also, I have not yet been dinged from CC in NY though I don't know why. No connections to NY really and average resume


School range?

To the anon who is done, how long was your writing sample you sent? I had to cut out my summary of facts to get it below 10 pages, is this okay?

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:51 am

AssumptionRequired wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Writing sample request from V&E. Wanted to wait till after finals to get that ready... darn

same here, sent it in since I had one already for the DOJ stuff I was applying for.

Also, I have not yet been dinged from CC in NY though I don't know why. No connections to NY really and average resume


School range?

To the anon who is done, how long was your writing sample you sent? I had to cut out my summary of facts to get it below 10 pages, is this okay?
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diff. anon. for mine I had a cover page that gave a one-two sentence description of the relevant facts, and just gave them some of the body paragraphs for some context with citations.

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Re: Heard Back for 1L SA Position

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:54 am

I'm the ANON who was done with the writing sample

Mine was 10 pages long (my memo) and I didnt redact at all (the DOJ requirements were 10 pgs long so it fit)....but i did say in my email that if it was too long I could redact...VE emailed me back 5 min later saying thanks and basically that was the end of it




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