What were bar stipends in 2012?

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:21 pm

Does anybody know the policy for Kirkland-Chicago? Somebody mentioned to me that it was a $10k stipend on top of all bar expenses, but I'm not sure they're right.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anybody know the policy for Kirkland-Chicago? Somebody mentioned to me that it was a $10k stipend on top of all bar expenses, but I'm not sure they're right.


They're right.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anybody know the policy for Kirkland-Chicago? Somebody mentioned to me that it was a $10k stipend on top of all bar expenses, but I'm not sure they're right.


They're right.


Nice. After talking with a lot of people going to NYC V10s and getting sub-$10,000 advances, it seemed a little too good to be true.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:18 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
JO 14 wrote:Thanks. Walking around $ sounds great! They mentioned “incidentals” but since I live in my SA city, I kind of blew it off. . . perhaps not my best moment!


Now you just have to hope that it's enough money to tide you over before you start.

One V10 firm offered a salary advance of $10,000... and made their associates start in January. But no problem: Lot's of people can live off of $10,000 in borrowed money for 7 months.


Better than my future firms offering of 5k advance for a January start date... I need to figure out if I can do some doc review sept-dec. Need to make ends meet somehow.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:50 pm

Does anyone know Latham's policy? advance or stipend?

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby thesealocust » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:09 pm

If anybody has time to search for it, there's an outdated but probably still roughly accurate Above The Law chart containing all of this information. I think from just before the recession hit.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Tiago Splitter » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:59 pm

thesealocust wrote:If anybody has time to search for it, there's an outdated but probably still roughly accurate Above The Law chart containing all of this information. I think from just before the recession hit.


http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/associat ... id-to-ask/

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:03 pm

thesealocust wrote:If anybody has time to search for it, there's an outdated but probably still roughly accurate Above The Law chart containing all of this information. I think from just before the recession hit.


Here it is: http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/associat ... id-to-ask/

It's from mid-2008.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know Latham's policy? advance or stipend?


Latham LA gives $15k stipend but you have to pay for your own bar course and bar fees.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:28 pm

As far as I've heard, Gibson's is the best. $13,333 stipend, plus bar expenses, plus relocation expenses up to $10k

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:As far as I've heard, Gibson's is the best. $13,333 stipend, plus bar expenses, plus relocation expenses up to $10k


Except in NYC, where it's a $10,000 in NYC.

And, if I recall correctly, WSGR, Paul Hastings, and Jenner & Block seem to beat Gibson as well when Gibson does pay a stipend.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:51 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:As far as I've heard, Gibson's is the best. $13,333 stipend, plus bar expenses, plus relocation expenses up to $10k


Except in NYC, where it's a $10,000 in NYC.

And, if I recall correctly, WSGR, Paul Hastings, and Jenner & Block seem to beat Gibson as well when Gibson does pay a stipend.


PH gives 16K but doesn't pay bar expenses. So you may come out ahead or behind depending on how cheap you go with bar prep.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby JO 14 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:38 am

Fresh Prince wrote:
JO 14 wrote:Thanks. Walking around $ sounds great! They mentioned “incidentals” but since I live in my SA city, I kind of blew it off. . . perhaps not my best moment!


Now you just have to hope that it's enough money to tide you over before you start.

One V10 firm offered a salary advance of $10,000... and made their associates start in January. But no problem: Lot's of people can live off of $10,000 in borrowed money for 7 months.

7 months? What am I missing here?

IMO: $10K for 7 months does not work unless half the $25K for SA is set aside and figured in.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:42 am

JO 14 wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
JO 14 wrote:Thanks. Walking around $ sounds great! They mentioned “incidentals” but since I live in my SA city, I kind of blew it off. . . perhaps not my best moment!


Now you just have to hope that it's enough money to tide you over before you start.

One V10 firm offered a salary advance of $10,000... and made their associates start in January. But no problem: Lot's of people can live off of $10,000 in borrowed money for 7 months.

7 months? What am I missing here?

IMO: $10K for 7 months does not work unless half the $25K for SA is set aside and figured in.


Go to north dakota, full employment

or

buy a used van and live down by the river.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:54 am

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Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:As far as I've heard, Gibson's is the best. $13,333 stipend, plus bar expenses, plus relocation expenses up to $10k


Except in NYC, where it's a $10,000 in NYC.

And, if I recall correctly, WSGR, Paul Hastings, and Jenner & Block seem to beat Gibson as well when Gibson does pay a stipend.


PH gives 16K but doesn't pay bar expenses. So you may come out ahead or behind depending on how cheap you go with bar prep.



I mean Gibson pays a salary advance in NYC.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:07 am

Chiming in that the firm I am going to in secondary market pays a 10k stipend plus bar exam classes and moving costs. From what I understand that is very generous for the market.

However, I have heard it is so their office can attract T14 talent into the secondary market. They pretty much exclusively hire T14 grads and encourage (read: require) clerkships.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby IAFG » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:35 am

JO 14 wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
JO 14 wrote:Thanks. Walking around $ sounds great! They mentioned “incidentals” but since I live in my SA city, I kind of blew it off. . . perhaps not my best moment!


Now you just have to hope that it's enough money to tide you over before you start.

One V10 firm offered a salary advance of $10,000... and made their associates start in January. But no problem: Lot's of people can live off of $10,000 in borrowed money for 7 months.

7 months? What am I missing here?

IMO: $10K for 7 months does not work unless half the $25K for SA is set aside and figured in.

:roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:54 am

IAFG wrote:
JO 14 wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
JO 14 wrote:Thanks. Walking around $ sounds great! They mentioned “incidentals” but since I live in my SA city, I kind of blew it off. . . perhaps not my best moment!


Now you just have to hope that it's enough money to tide you over before you start.

One V10 firm offered a salary advance of $10,000... and made their associates start in January. But no problem: Lot's of people can live off of $10,000 in borrowed money for 7 months.

7 months? What am I missing here?

IMO: $10K for 7 months does not work unless half the $25K for SA is set aside and figured in.

:roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?


One where they want someone to start a job several months from when they offer it?

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby IAFG » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:00 am

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote: :roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?


One where they want someone to start a job several months from when they offer it?

And they're floating you ten grand to deal with that. Incredibly generous in any industry.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:31 am

IAFG wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote: :roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?


One where they want someone to start a job several months from when they offer it?

And they're floating you ten grand to deal with that. Incredibly generous in any industry.


That's like 3.5 weeks rent in NYC. 5 in DC.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby IAFG » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:34 am

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote: :roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?


One where they want someone to start a job several months from when they offer it?

And they're floating you ten grand to deal with that. Incredibly generous in any industry.


That's like 3.5 weeks rent in NYC. 5 in DC.

No one is forcing you to live in either of those places during your 7 month firm-subsidized vacation.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:15 am

Don't most people blow it on a bar trip? Always kind of makes me chuckle that they spend borrowed money on a bar trip.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby The Duck » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:19 am

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote: :roll: In what world is this an employer's problem?


One where they want someone to start a job several months from when they offer it?

And they're floating you ten grand to deal with that. Incredibly generous in any industry.


That's like 3.5 weeks rent in NYC. 5 in DC.


DC is nowhere near that expensive. You're looking at $3K a month, or less.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:09 am

IAFG wrote:No one is forcing you to live in either of those places during your 7 month firm-subsidized vacation.


Absolutely this.

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Re: What were bar stipends in 2012?

Postby pertristis » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thesealocust wrote:If anybody has time to search for it, there's an outdated but probably still roughly accurate Above The Law chart containing all of this information. I think from just before the recession hit.


Here it is: http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/associat ... id-to-ask/

It's from mid-2008.


Try http://www.laterallink.com/career_center. This seems to be updated.




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