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Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:53 am
by 2014
So if I'm using aunts and uncles as family ties to an area (better than nothing right? :P) should I refer to them as "Family" or specify?

I'm inclined to stick with family since it seems more persuasive and clarify should they interview me.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:17 pm
by basilseal
Sent. That was a really nice procrastination break from my actual studies.

Please let one of these come through.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:18 pm
by Blessedassurance
Who are you sending it to? The recruiting contact or hiring attorney?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:37 pm
by renardthecrocs
2014 wrote:So if I'm using aunts and uncles as family ties to an area (better than nothing right? :P) should I refer to them as "Family" or specify?

I'm inclined to stick with family since it seems more persuasive and clarify should they interview me.
Pretty sure your inclinations are correct.
Blessedassurance wrote:Who are you sending it to? The recruiting contact or hiring attorney?
Did the hiring attorney go to your school or would you have something specific to say to him/her? If no, recruiting contact and also contact an alum in the firm.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:00 pm
by 2014
If the firm has an online form as well as a Nalp recruiting contact should I email or use the form?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:06 pm
by chem
2014 wrote:If the firm has an online form as well as a Nalp recruiting contact should I email or use the form?
Form, use email for followups

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:59 pm
by renardthecrocs
Only ended up putting 2 in the physical mail. A classmate just sent me an amazing excel doc that I hope I can use for mail merging purposes. Literally has (in MM format) all the firms that take 1Ls in NY, Chi, DC, Texas, Miami, Atlanta, and the California cities. I owe that dude more than a beer - maybe a keg?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:00 pm
by goldeneye
What are ya'll doing if a firm asks for a transcript? Are you putting your undergrad transcript? Or just the blank one from your current school?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:15 pm
by Blessedassurance
Is anybody spamming firms with a generic cover letter? This personalization stuff takes way too long.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:16 pm
by renardthecrocs
Blessedassurance wrote:Is anybody spamming firms with a generic cover letter? This personalization stuff takes way too long.
Generic, yup

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:16 pm
by goldeneye
renardthecrocs wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:Is anybody spamming firms with a generic cover letter? This personalization stuff takes way too long.
Generic, yup
are you applying via the firm site applications, or just the email address? and what about transcripts?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:25 pm
by Anonymous User
In Hawaii here!

On NALP, there is only one firm that hires 1Ls listed and just four firms listed overall. I don't have time to mass mail until after finals, but I was hoping to mail out my resume to some of the big firms here that definitely practice in the area I am interested in.

I have no idea if these firms even hire 1Ls, but should I just do it anyway?

What should I say in my email?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:00 am
by coldshoulder
Strategies for applying to DA/PD offices?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:51 am
by renardthecrocs
goldeneye wrote:
renardthecrocs wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:Is anybody spamming firms with a generic cover letter? This personalization stuff takes way too long.
Generic, yup
are you applying via the firm site applications, or just the email address? and what about transcripts?
Just the email address. As for transcripts, my best guess is to say you can offer it to them in January.

It's not like firms don't know what timeline you're on.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:04 am
by goldeneye
renardthecrocs wrote:
goldeneye wrote:
renardthecrocs wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:Is anybody spamming firms with a generic cover letter? This personalization stuff takes way too long.
Generic, yup
are you applying via the firm site applications, or just the email address? and what about transcripts?
Just the email address. And I'm lucky enough to have a couple of grades so I'm not the best person to ask about transcripts. My best guess is to say you can offer it to them in January.

It's not like firms don't know what timeline you're on.
did you start in the summer?

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:42 am
by Jsa725
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Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:52 am
by franklyscarlet
Jsa725 wrote:So what's the credited way to go here? Email hiring partners from the firms website (or whatever email they give)?

Cover letter in the body of the email and attach the Rez?
That's how I did it, usually with the contact info from the NALP directory.

25 mailed yesterday, a million to go.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:56 am
by Jsa725
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Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:12 am
by franklyscarlet
Jsa725 wrote:
franklyscarlet wrote:
Jsa725 wrote:So what's the credited way to go here? Email hiring partners from the firms website (or whatever email they give)?

Cover letter in the body of the email and attach the Rez?
That's how I did it, usually with the contact info from the NALP directory.

25 mailed yesterday, a million to go.
solid... i have my resume ready to go and a judicial cover letter that i need to tweak for private practice

btw/ you emailed correct?

edit: did you use "writing to express interest in a summer position at your firm during the summer of 2013." is there a credited way of this introductory clause?
I think I used something similar. As long as you get the message across without terrible grammar, I expect it's fine.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:19 am
by renardthecrocs
I upped the ante. I'm not expressing interest; I'm applying. And I said as much. I'm "expressing interest" when I send out those networking emails. This felt more real somehow (even if it's not).

Also "next summer" probably less cumbersome/just as obvious as "summer of 2013".

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:22 am
by Jsa725
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Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:55 am
by renardthecrocs
OP of the thread may want to take note and add some of these questions I've heard a lot of the past few days w/r/t firms. Here are my best shots at answers.

Writing Sample: Yes for judges. No for firms, unless they ask. Otherwise, check specific postings.
Transcript: If you're a typical 1L, firms know you don't have a transcript yet. You should not wait until January to apply. If you're still in contact with them (have had a meeting of some sort), you can update them when you get grades.
Email or Snail Mail? Email.
Email contact or online application? This one stumps me. I haven't done any applications; then again I don't have a job yet.
Attach the cover letter or put it in the body of the email? My CPO is very much pro-attaching everything, and it's not that hard - you just jot a 2 line email and attach your document. I think that would make it easy for the recruiting person to print your application and keep everything together, but doing a cover letter in an email works just as well, if you prefer that. Most important thing is that you should only have one attachment - a pdf file merging all of your application elements.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:57 am
by llachans
coldshoulder wrote:Strategies for applying to DA/PD offices?
Also interested in this.

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:12 pm
by 005618502
Just so people know, every recruiting contact I have spoken with has said they hate receiving snail mail... When you email it to them they can print a fresh copy of your resume and cover letter and dont have to deal with the hassel of snail mail. Just a heads up.

I sent out apps to all texas firms hiring 1Ls yesterday, hopefully something works out!

Re: 1L Summer Job Search (Early Bird Special)

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:22 pm
by jkpolk
AssumptionRequired wrote:Just so people know, every recruiting contact I have spoken with has said they hate receiving snail mail... When you email it to them they can print a fresh copy of your resume and cover letter and dont have to deal with the hassel of snail mail. Just a heads up.

I sent out apps to all texas firms hiring 1Ls yesterday, hopefully something works out!
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