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Anonymous User wrote:Historically, and I know it is RARE, but are there ever any Spring openings for summer SA's. I expect my GPA to boost me a little bit... and still hope.

In terms of big firms, checking last year's thread all I could find was one opening at Dickstein Shapiro for someone with a CPA and who was a Certified Fraud Examiner.

Yet didn't Dewey SAs get BigLaw jobs in April? Or am I completely wrong?

A lot if the Dewey kids did get another SA position after it went under but it was super stressful doing callbacks during spring final exam period. But as I am sure you know it isn't a comparable situation. For some reason (perhaps some firms just happened to need a few extra SAs or perhaps there was a rare bit of altruism) firms decided to break out of their normal pattern and do something kind. However the age-old adage that it is easier to get a job (or a boyfriend) when you have one applied to the Dewey kids. They were seen as unlucky but desirable candidates. I am not saying people who didn't land SAs are not desirable: there are many of them who I think would do great jobs and have great stats. But there is something in human psychology that makes people prefer things or people who other people already have or covet. It makes zero sense for firms to hire Dewey SAs in April randomly when they basically never hire the other amazing candidates available in April bc they missed the OCI boat.

Sorry if there are mistakes in this. I am on my phone and I have to turn it off right now. But everyone out there without an SA: keep your head up and keep spamming your résumé and beefing it up like crazy this year! If you are someone who just barely missed the OCI boat, I think you have a good chance of having a satisfying career!

somewhatwayward wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Historically, and I know it is RARE, but are there ever any Spring openings for summer SA's. I expect my GPA to boost me a little bit... and still hope.

In terms of big firms, checking last year's thread all I could find was one opening at Dickstein Shapiro for someone with a CPA and who was a Certified Fraud Examiner.

Yet didn't Dewey SAs get BigLaw jobs in April? Or am I completely wrong?

A lot if the Dewey kids did get another SA position after it went under but it was super stressful doing callbacks during spring final exam period. But as I am sure you know it isn't a comparable situation. For some reason (perhaps some firms just happened to need a few extra SAs or perhaps there was a rare bit of altruism) firms decided to break out of their normal pattern and do something kind. However the age-old adage that it is easier to get a job (or a boyfriend) when you have one applied to the Dewey kids. They were seen as unlucky but desirable candidates. I am not saying people who didn't land SAs are not desirable: there are many of them who I think would do great jobs and have great stats. But there is something in human psychology that makes people prefer things or people who other people already have or covet. It makes zero sense for firms to hire Dewey SAs in April randomly when they basically never hire the other amazing candidates available in April bc they missed the OCI boat.

Sorry if there are mistakes in this. I am on my phone and I have to turn it off right now. But everyone out there without an SA: keep your head up and keep spamming your résumé and beefing it up like crazy this year! If you are someone who just barely missed the OCI boat, I think you have a good chance of having a satisfying career!

Yeah, I know firms aren't just hoarding spots waiting for the right resume. But I think (and I believe this is how one of the Dewey people got another SA) if you have a connection to a high enough partner they may be able to pull some strings. Though I have no proof it would work and the Dewey thing was a special circumstance.

Foley & Lardner - Madison

Anonymous User wrote:

somewhatwayward wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Historically, and I know it is RARE, but are there ever any Spring openings for summer SA's. I expect my GPA to boost me a little bit... and still hope.

In terms of big firms, checking last year's thread all I could find was one opening at Dickstein Shapiro for someone with a CPA and who was a Certified Fraud Examiner.

Yet didn't Dewey SAs get BigLaw jobs in April? Or am I completely wrong?

A lot if the Dewey kids did get another SA position after it went under but it was super stressful doing callbacks during spring final exam period. But as I am sure you know it isn't a comparable situation. For some reason (perhaps some firms just happened to need a few extra SAs or perhaps there was a rare bit of altruism) firms decided to break out of their normal pattern and do something kind. However the age-old adage that it is easier to get a job (or a boyfriend) when you have one applied to the Dewey kids. They were seen as unlucky but desirable candidates. I am not saying people who didn't land SAs are not desirable: there are many of them who I think would do great jobs and have great stats. But there is something in human psychology that makes people prefer things or people who other people already have or covet. It makes zero sense for firms to hire Dewey SAs in April randomly when they basically never hire the other amazing candidates available in April bc they missed the OCI boat.

Sorry if there are mistakes in this. I am on my phone and I have to turn it off right now. But everyone out there without an SA: keep your head up and keep spamming your résumé and beefing it up like crazy this year! If you are someone who just barely missed the OCI boat, I think you have a good chance of having a satisfying career!

Yeah, I know firms aren't just hoarding spots waiting for the right resume. But I think (and I believe this is how one of the Dewey people got another SA) if you have a connection to a high enough partner they may be able to pull some strings. Though I have no proof it would work and the Dewey thing was a special circumstance.

I was so wrong on the bolded point.

Which part of the highlighted section were you wrong about? That firms still have positions or that there may a shot?

Anonymous User wrote:Which part of the highlighted section were you wrong about? That firms still have positions or that there may a shot?

Both. I was recommended to the hiring partner at a V20 by a very large client (currently doing an IPO) and, even though he looked into it, they would not add a slot even in a one-off situation. That's not to say others won't have luck. It's just that it seems like firms set their requirements, hit them and move on.

Anonymous User wrote:Foley & Lardner - Madison

They filled the slot. Must have been an old posting.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Which part of the highlighted section were you wrong about? That firms still have positions or that there may a shot?

Both. I was recommended to the hiring partner at a V20 by a very large client (currently doing an IPO) and, even though he looked into it, they would not add a slot even in a one-off situation. That's not to say others won't have luck. It's just that it seems like firms set their requirements, hit them and move on.

law is remarkably meritocratic.

Anyone have a list of the firms coming to Spring OCIs? Thanks

Spiegel & McDiarmid DC

Come on guys. Anything on your Symplicity?

Caplin & Drysdale (Washington, DC)

Anonymous User wrote:Caplin & Drysdale (Washington, DC)

Is this for a specific practice area? School range?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Caplin & Drysdale (Washington, DC)

Is this for a specific practice area? School range?

I did a screener for their tax program last week--supposedly they were doing two other on-campus programs and then starting cb this week so it might be school specific.

Global IP Law Group - Chicago

2013 IP Summer Associate K&L Gates (San Francisco, CA)

Anonymous User wrote:2013 IP Summer Associate K&L Gates (San Francisco, CA)

Is this posted on your school's symplicity? If so, what school range?

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Anonymous User wrote:2013 IP Summer Associate K&L Gates (San Francisco, CA)

Is this posted on your school's symplicity? If so, what school range?

Yes it was. T14.

I guess that's it.

Anonymous User wrote:I guess that's it.

Already sending those resumes to profs about being an RA.

Thompson Hine - Cleveland. Posted a couple of weeks ago. They still might be looking.

tag

bump. looking for SoCal in particular.

Anonymous User wrote:bump. looking for SoCal in particular.

It's been dead on my T6 for a while now. PI or bust I guess.

MoloLamken looking for 2010, 2011, 2012 grads.

HYS simplicity.

Clerkship preferred.

Seems like a really sweet gig. New firm, small firm, pays very well.

Anonymous User wrote:MoloLamken looking for 2010, 2011, 2012 grads.

HYS simplicity.

Clerkship preferred.

Seems like a really sweet gig. New firm, small firm, pays very well.

Maybe post on the 3L thread? We're looking for SAs.