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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby dood » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:19 pm

drmguy wrote:
IAFG wrote:This thread's gone in a really useful and helpful direction.

TLS cannot stand for such mischaracterizations.


anything outside of HYS is tier 2 to me

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby HeavenWood » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:19 pm

dood wrote:
drmguy wrote:
IAFG wrote:This thread's gone in a really useful and helpful direction.

TLS cannot stand for such mischaracterizations.


anything outside of HYS is tier 2 to me

Egregious pro-Harvard trolling.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby KidStuddi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:46 pm

Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby HeavenWood » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:47 pm

KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.

Not with Duquesne in the mix.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:59 pm

KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.


Statements like this are so misleading. The city is undoubtably full of Pitt law grads, but going to Pitt and getting a decent job in Pittsburgh is very difficult. In this environment, no school owns anything, especially outside the top handful of schools.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby KidStuddi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:56 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.


Statements like this are so misleading. The city is undoubtably full of Pitt law grads, but going to Pitt and getting a decent job in Pittsburgh is very difficult. In this environment, no school owns anything, especially outside the top handful of schools.


The statement isn't misleading; you apparently just assume people don't appreciate that it's always hard to get an extremely high paying and coveted job.
I can make the statement "the ACC dominates the NBA feeding market" (or whatever conference you want, I don't follow closely enough to know) and the reality would still be that the vast majority of people who play in that conference, or any other, will never make it to the big show. That doesn't make it any less true for me to state that a disproportionate number of players in the NBA came from that conference. Likewise I'm stating that if you look at firms in Pittsburgh, you'll see that the largest portion of the attorneys are UPitt alumni. Nothing about that statement implies that the 12th (or even 4th or 5th ITE) man on the proverbial bench is going to make it big.
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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby thelawyler » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:58 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.


Statements like this are so misleading. The city is undoubtably full of Pitt law grads, but going to Pitt and getting a decent job in Pittsburgh is very difficult. In this environment, no school owns anything, especially outside the top handful of schools.


What if employers are going there IN DROVES?

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby aca0260 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:22 am

Bump for amazing thread.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby HeavenWood » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:44 am

KidStuddi wrote:
Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.


Statements like this are so misleading. The city is undoubtably full of Pitt law grads, but going to Pitt and getting a decent job in Pittsburgh is very difficult. In this environment, no school owns anything, especially outside the top handful of schools.


The statement isn't misleading; you apparently just assume people don't appreciate that it's always hard to get an extremely high paying and coveted job.
I can make the statement "the ACC dominates the NBA feeding market" (or whatever conference you want, I don't follow closely enough to know) and the reality would still be that the vast majority of people who play in that conference, or any other, will never make it to the big show. That doesn't make it any less true for me to state that a disproportionate number of players in the NBA came from that conference. Likewise I'm stating that if you look at firms in Pittsburgh, you'll see that the largest portion of the attorneys are UPitt alumni. Nothing about that statement implies that the 12th (or even 4th or 5th ITE) man on the proverbial bench is going to make it big.

Pitt certainly places better than Duquesne, but not by a big-enough margin to stay it really dominates. Both schools are performing rather shitty ITE. Pitt's performance is just somewhat less so.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby togepi » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:50 am

Maybe talking about LSU?

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby MarkRenton » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:31 am

Can we sticky this thread to the top of the forum for future generations to read?

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby rad lulz » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:45 am

thelawyler wrote:
Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
KidStuddi wrote:
Anonnn wrote:I'd be curious to know what tier 2 school dominates in its market. Thinking like somewhere in the Dakotas or Alaska? Just curious.


UPitt pretty much owns Pittsburgh.


Statements like this are so misleading. The city is undoubtably full of Pitt law grads, but going to Pitt and getting a decent job in Pittsburgh is very difficult. In this environment, no school owns anything, especially outside the top handful of schools.


What if employers are going there IN DROVES?

Agreed. Always consider the DROVES, which correlate almost perfectly to USNWR.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby IAFG » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:48 am

How is there not a definitive "what to do after you strike out" article yet?

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby rad lulz » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:50 am

IAFG wrote:How is there not a definitive "what to do after you strike out" article yet?

Drop out/network w govt. and smaller firms/apply for clerkships so you can get ANY legal job doesn't make for a good article.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby rouser » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:53 am

dood wrote:wisconsin dominates its market (wisconsin)

I feel like Iowa and WI are pretty similar because in both states there's the decently ranked state school and then one private law school (drake, marquette).

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby reasonable_man » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:50 am

Wait... Seriously though... The title of this thread was supposed to be a fucking joke right???

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby JusticeHarlan » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:42 am

IAFG wrote:How is there not a definitive "what to do after you strike out" article yet?

A start, at least.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby keg411 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:20 am

JusticeHarlan wrote:
IAFG wrote:How is there not a definitive "what to do after you strike out" article yet?

A start, at least.


That's not really for true "strike outs" or people that don't have the numbers to get BigLaw. It's really for people at T14's or those with awesome grades at lower-ranked schools. I don't know how much that advice is going to help a T2, top 20% person.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby badaboom61 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:30 am

togepi wrote:Maybe talking about LSU?


Ole Miss and South Carolina are also in the group.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby dreakol » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:40 am

he is obviously talking about the stranglehold wayne state has on the phoenix market

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby kwais » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:25 am

NYLS (Tier 2 for law schools south of Houston) dominates TriBeCa mid sized med mal (a legit market). I would bet that OP might be referring to this.

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby dingbat » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:30 am

kwais wrote:NYLS (Tier 2 for law schools south of Houston) dominates TriBeCa mid sized med mal (a legit market). I would bet that OP might be referring to this.

I thought NYLS dominated funemployment

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby kwais » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:34 am

dingbat wrote:
kwais wrote:NYLS (Tier 2 for law schools south of Houston) dominates TriBeCa mid sized med mal (a legit market). I would bet that OP might be referring to this.

I thought NYLS dominated funemployment


who said you can't dominate two markets at once?

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby dingbat » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:40 am

kwais wrote:
dingbat wrote:
kwais wrote:NYLS (Tier 2 for law schools south of Houston) dominates TriBeCa mid sized med mal (a legit market). I would bet that OP might be referring to this.

I thought NYLS dominated funemployment


who said you can't dominate two markets at once?

Well, if Yale can dominate the law professor and supreme court markets, NYLS can dominate the uber-shitlaw and funemployment markets

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Re: top 20% tier 2 law school that dominates in its market.

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:10 am

Cooley is the undisputed President and CEO of un/underemployment. It's board of directors include all of the state approved (non-aba approved) law schools, and advisers to the board include a bunch of low ranked CA schools and all law schools ranked outside the top 18ish with a class size of 300 or more.



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