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ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:19 pm

How reliable are these? The high ratings for firms like Davis Polk and Simpson Thacher (both with A- ratings) line up with what I've heard from other sources as those firms being great places to work, but as somebody in the process of choosing a firm, the lower ratings of some firms (e.g. a C- for SullCrom and a B- for Kirkland) worry me—but I'm not sure if they should.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby TTH » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:22 pm

Define "reliable." It's an attempt to quantify aggregate gossip about firms.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:27 pm

TTH wrote:Define "reliable." It's an attempt to quantify aggregate gossip about firms.


Reliable as in an accurate measure showing how people working at a particular firm see that firm. I know that it's not a perfect indication, but I was wondering how rough of a proxy it is. For example, does it really suck that much more to work at SullCrom (C-) versus Davis Polk (A-)?

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
TTH wrote:Define "reliable." It's an attempt to quantify aggregate gossip about firms.


Reliable as in an accurate measure showing how people working at a particular firm see that firm. I know that it's not a perfect indication, but I was wondering how rough of a proxy it is. For example, does it really suck that much more to work at SullCrom (C-) versus Davis Polk (A-)?


No, these metrics strike me as highly subjective. I have friends that SullCrom that absolutely love their time there, but others don't like the culture (or to them the lack thereof). Other friends really hate what they perceive as passive aggressiveness at DPW, but others love the people.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
TTH wrote:Define "reliable." It's an attempt to quantify aggregate gossip about firms.


Reliable as in an accurate measure showing how people working at a particular firm see that firm. I know that it's not a perfect indication, but I was wondering how rough of a proxy it is. For example, does it really suck that much more to work at SullCrom (C-) versus Davis Polk (A-)?


No, these metrics strike me as highly subjective. I have friends that SullCrom that absolutely love their time there, but others don't like the culture (or to them the lack thereof). Other friends really hate what they perceive as passive aggressiveness at DPW, but others love the people.


Obviously there are going to be people at each firm who love it and others who hate it. There are also people who think that Congress is doing an awesome job. And people who thought that The Shawshank Redemption was an awful movie. I'm sort of going in with the assumption that I will not be the exception to the rule.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby keg411 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:56 pm

I think those are old and outdated (though I could be wrong, but the last time I checked it out, some of the information seemed like it was incorrect). Lateral Link/The ATL Career Center profiles should have more updated information.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:59 pm

keg411 wrote:I think those are old and outdated (though I could be wrong, but the last time I checked it out, some of the information seemed like it was incorrect). Lateral Link/The ATL Career Center profiles should have more updated information.


Can you link me to these? Can't seem to find them. I thought that these were shut down in favor of the newer (or so I thought) ATL/careers site that I linked to.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby keg411 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
keg411 wrote:I think those are old and outdated (though I could be wrong, but the last time I checked it out, some of the information seemed like it was incorrect). Lateral Link/The ATL Career Center profiles should have more updated information.


Can you link me to these? Can't seem to find them. I thought that these were shut down in favor of the newer (or so I thought) ATL/careers site that I linked to.


Hmm.. I'm not sure. It's weird because the new "rating" thing seems super outdated and has information from like 2009, but the other site is gone. I have zero idea what's going on over there.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:38 pm

Doesn't seem very reliable. They gave my firm an A- for compensation, when it's known that our compensation (other than first year salary) is much less than market.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:49 pm

I would argue that these ratings are based on what people THINK their firm should be, rather than what it actually is, because they don't know about life at any other firm.

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby Law Sauce » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:05 pm

keg411 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
keg411 wrote:I think those are old and outdated (though I could be wrong, but the last time I checked it out, some of the information seemed like it was incorrect). Lateral Link/The ATL Career Center profiles should have more updated information.


Can you link me to these? Can't seem to find them. I thought that these were shut down in favor of the newer (or so I thought) ATL/careers site that I linked to.


Hmm.. I'm not sure. It's weird because the new "rating" thing seems super outdated and has information from like 2009, but the other site is gone. I have zero idea what's going on over there.


http://www.laterallink.com/career_center/

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby keg411 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:27 pm

Law Sauce wrote:
keg411 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
keg411 wrote:I think those are old and outdated (though I could be wrong, but the last time I checked it out, some of the information seemed like it was incorrect). Lateral Link/The ATL Career Center profiles should have more updated information.


Can you link me to these? Can't seem to find them. I thought that these were shut down in favor of the newer (or so I thought) ATL/careers site that I linked to.


Hmm.. I'm not sure. It's weird because the new "rating" thing seems super outdated and has information from like 2009, but the other site is gone. I have zero idea what's going on over there.


http://www.laterallink.com/career_center/


There we go -- that looks right :).

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Re: ATL's Firm Insider Ratings

Postby newbienew » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:50 pm

Thanks for posting this, Law Sauce. It looks like a great resource.




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