manofjustice wrote: anon168 wrote: manofjustice wrote:
anon168 wrote:Both said that law firm hiring was drastically down this year and that they have not seen it this bad in a long while. One said the market was "devastatingly bad" and the other said it was a "gruesome market".
Maybe just repeating what's obvious. But I thought I'd just throw it out there in case it's any consolation for those still looking.
One thing I should add. One CSO said she got the sentiment that firms overhired this year, which could mean lower offer rates or less hiring next year.
Good luck to everyone out there.
2011 numbers were the worst. So were the CSOs saying that 2012 will be worse yet? Does that mesh with the experience of your firm?
That's the impression that I got, although I have no idea what the numbers were for my firm in 2011 as I wasn't here then.
Again, this is just two data points and like alot of folks have point out it's pretty much just anecdotal. And you have to consider the audience (read: prospective employer) that the CSO was speaking to.
Well, makes us feel a bit better.
Just wondering...why would a CSO want to say the market is gruesome to a prospective employer? Make the employer feel like it could have its pick?
I have one anecdote. A guy screams "god fuckin dammit" from the conference room down the hall while I was studying contracts...I assumed it was because he got no-offered. It's like a siege mentality. Any sound, any hint, and we assume the worst. But the worst seems the new normal.
Reverse (or perverse?) psychology perhaps? CSOs are marketing people first and foremost when it comes to relating with the prospective employers. By letting employers know that the market is trending down or stagnating, it's one more talking point as to why the employer needs to really focus on her school's students (as opposed to another peer school's) because they just can't take a risk by playing the field. Again, this comment was prefaced by the general gibberish of how the law school this year has done X, Y, Z and A and B and C to prepare their students for summer employment, permanent employment in general, and overall life qualities.
I posted this because of all the angst I see on this board, and wanted to let people know that maybe some of them are struggling not because of so much what they are doing, or not doing, but how the market in general is reacting to everyone.