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what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:19 pm

what is needed for SDNY/EDNY and D.Cts in DC, Boston, Chicago, SF, LA and non-feeder 1,2,9 judges?
Friend at CLS told me that the average gpa for CoA clerks in general is A- (so I guess that means like 3.6 which apparently is like top 10-15%), the average gpa for SDNY/EDNY is also around A-.
If it's really true that top 10-15% can get you a non 2/9/DC CoA or SDNY at CLS why is it I hear about people with the equivalent of 3.7 gpas at HLS striking out?

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Re: what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby nevdash » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If it's really true that top 10-15% can get you a non 2/9/DC CoA or SDNY at CLS why is it I hear about people with the equivalent of 3.7 gpas at HLS striking out?

Perhaps because the clerkship application process is about much more than mere numbers.

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Re: what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:what is needed for SDNY/EDNY and D.Cts in DC, Boston, Chicago, SF, LA and non-feeder 1,2,9 judges?
Friend at CLS told me that the average gpa for CoA clerks in general is A- (so I guess that means like 3.6 which apparently is like top 10-15%), the average gpa for SDNY/EDNY is also around A-.
If it's really true that top 10-15% can get you a non 2/9/DC CoA or SDNY at CLS why is it I hear about people with the equivalent of 3.7 gpas at HLS striking out?


Grades won't be the sole consideration. While top 10-15% makes you competitive, judges will also consider LR/Board Positions, writing samples, recommendations/personal calls, and background/resume features like Work experience. Grades are a large factor, but not the only factor.

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Re: what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:26 pm

At HLS. Most people I know with COA clerkships have either LR (BSA also did very well) or impeccable grades (more DS than P), and often both. I know a ton of people at HLS with merely good grades (3.4-3.7) and no LR who snagged district court clerkships - I'm one of them. Most of them were not SDNY/EDNY/NDCA/CDCA/DDC/DMass/NDIll, especially because many of those judges really prefer applicants with experience. If you're willing to apply broadly and have good (around the cum laude cutoff or better) grades, you have a good chance of snagging something.

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Re: what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:32 pm

looking at the list of hls clerks it seems like almost nobody does a district clerkship outside the top 7 or 8 most desirable cities.
also, there are, it seems, about 80 coa clerks per year and only 40 people on LR per year. Even if all LR people clerk, which I know not to be even close to true, it seems like plenty of people not on LR get CoA. I know more than a few LR people who are clerking who are doing district courts so I'm guessing at least half the CoA people aren't on LR but instead have good grades (top 15-20% and special faculty relationships or other special softs such as publications, PhDs, or high level government experience)

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Re: what grades at HLS for clerkships

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:01 pm

When do they announce all the prizes and such? or do they even announce it?




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