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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:35 pm

EOIR finalist #5. All 3 refs contacted before Thanksgiving; all three responded (as of yesterday). No offer.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:35 pm

EOIR finalist #6. (non-OCIJ) No references called. No offer.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:EOIR finalist #5. All 3 refs contacted before Thanksgiving; all three responded (as of yesterday). No offer.


Ok I'll be #7 - we had two 5s post at the same time.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:46 pm

EOIR Finalist #8. No references contacted. No offer.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:53 pm

Wow, could the immigration people possibly start a new board for this? 70-odd people posting "EOIR #__" is going to get way out of hand, and the rest of us would like to use this board too.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Deana Willis told me I was only a finalist for OCIJ. This happened right when finalists were announced. Prefer not to share the component...I interviewed with OCIJ and another component, frankly I bombed the other interview so it was easy to tell which one I was a finalist for even if Deana hadn't told me.

I also wonder if the different components kind of divvy up candidates, so that someone will only end up with an offer through one, even if they interviewed with a number of them? I'm totally guessing, it's just I've never seen anyone seem to get selected as a finalist or get an offer from more than one component, and especially in EOIR, you'd think someone who was a good candidate for OCIJ will be a good candidate for one of the other positions. (Totally ready to be proven wrong on this.)

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Wow, could the immigration people possibly start a new board for this? 70-odd people posting "EOIR #__" is going to get way out of hand, and the rest of us would like to use this board too.

I highly doubt there are 70-odd EOIR candidates actually posting here.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:34 pm

EOIR OCIJ Finalist #9. At least two references contacted on 11/14. No offer.
Source said that I'm not scheduled to get an offer yet but that offers will be going out for a couple weeks... not sure if I'm an alternate

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:42 pm

I would be surprised if outstanding offers are made today - many government employees work an alternative work schedule (AWS) and are not in the office every other Friday. I could be wrong...but it seems to me that Friday is the least likely day to get a call.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:09 pm

EOIR #10. No references contacted to my knowledge, no offer yet.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 pm

just got a call from dc from the doj. i got super anxious...

it was a question about my reimbursement. they say it should be processed within the week.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:EOIR #10. No references contacted to my knowledge, no offer yet.


OCIJ?

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:45 pm

EOIR Finalist #11, OCIJ, Selected as Finalist, no references contacted, no call, still hoping...

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:51 pm

EOIR finalist # 12 (BIA). no references, no call, no hope.
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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:08 pm

EOIR Finalist #13 - OCIJ, no references called, named an alternate. No expectations.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:43 pm

EOIR - OCIJ #14 - as far as I know, my references haven't been contacted, but they are all incredibly busy at the moment (one has new baby, one is in the process of moving to a new firm, the other just made partner at her firm last week). Assuming they haven't been. OCIJ is my dream job, but I am likely going to have some other offers relatively soon that I won't be able to sit on forever.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:44 pm

For those who may be ENRD finalists: Those offered a position have two weeks to accept. So there is a possibility you may hear something in a few weeks.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For those who may be ENRD finalists: Those offered a position have two weeks to accept. So there is a possibility you may hear something in a few weeks.


I don't mean to read too much between the lines, but does this mean that you have knowledge that an ENRD applicant's status has indeed changed to "Selected as Finalist" in Avue? To my knowledge, no one has yet confirmed that on this thread, and it would be nice to know for those whose status remains at "Selected for Interview."

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:52 pm

EOIR OCIJ finalist #15. All three refs contacted before thanksgiving. Hope is tempting, but morale is low. Good luck, folks (and thanks, non-OCIJ people, for bearing with us).

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:47 pm

OCIJ and BIA finalist #16. References contacted recently. I believe one hasn't yet responded. No offer.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:24 pm

OCIJ finalist #17. References have not been contacted yet. No offer yet. This is my first time posting.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:08 pm

For those of you have called OCIJ to check your status - who did you call and what number did you use?

I just discovered that one of my references has changed email addresses and I would like to update them with the most recent information.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:45 pm

Glad I'm not the only current JLC stalking this board!

Seriously: don't worry. They're not contacting people until they've heard back from all of their references and there are a LOT of offers to be made (just be glad you weren't in last year's pool, where there were only half as many open positions). If it makes you feel better, my references were contacted in mid-November, but I didn't get an offer until December 1 (apparently the person at EOIR collecting references was out sick and it knocked everything back). I have other friends who didn't hear until after I did.

And, finally, to the person who isn't sure whether to take this job or a firm job, given that they're not particularly interested in a career in immigration law: don't accept the JLC offer. I absolutely love my job, but immigration is the only kind of law I want to practice. It's true that you'll have an incredible opportunity to work with judges and hone your legal research and writing skills, but you won't enjoy any of the long-term benefits of deeply engaging with and learning immigration law in your career. You're so much better off looking for a more general clerkship, if your firm will let you defer for that purpose. You'll get the exact same benefits and learn about areas of the law that might actually be useful to you in the long term (and I'd definitely plug clerking any day - I think it's the best post-school job any baby lawyer could have). I just can't imagine slogging away on opinions in our crazy little immigration courts for two years, if you didn't want to be there. I think you'd be doing yourself and your judges a disservice.

I'd also concur with the people who thought most JLCs aren't really moving outside of immigration after their two years. There was a list of where the outgoing JLCs were going this year and very few of the ones who had jobs were doing anything other than immigration, although there were some who were moving elsewhere in government. I suspect a lot of that's self-selecting, though, since my impression of my JLC class is that we were all pretty committed to immigration law: indeed, I think that's why we were chosen. Certainly, I am convinced that my demonstrated interest in the area is why I got a job - it certainly wasn't because of my grades, which were mediocre.

Good luck everyone!

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:04 am

Anonymous User wrote:For those of you have called OCIJ to check your status - who did you call and what number did you use?

I just discovered that one of my references has changed email addresses and I would like to update them with the most recent information.


One of my references just moved to a new firm, so I'm in the same boat. I think his email will get forwarded for a bit, but I just want to be sure. Any info would be much appreciated.

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Re: DOJ Honors 2013

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:22 am

In case it hasn't been clarified yet for candidates who are finalists at two EOIR components - the components will coordinate and issue ONE offer. (I know this because a friend who was a double finalist received an offer last week, and she asked.)




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