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Re: Bad Interview Moments
Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
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Yeah, that was unfair of her to ask the question like that IMO. One, rising 2Ls don't even really know what litigation or transaction mean. Two, she asked it all sneakily as if you had a choice.Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
Hope you can recover, bro.
I've spoken with several interviewers, and sometimes they say that they just ask that question to get a feel for the student but don't see it as a commitment or anything because they know that most 1Ls don't know what the fuck lit or corp is.
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Yeah but the least you should do before you interview with a firm is know what kind of work they do. It's not too much to ask - just check the nalp practice areas. That's a pretty low bar to expect an applicant to reach.
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Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
Anonymous User wrote:Interviewer: "with your background, it looks like you are well-suited for a corporate practice"
Me "absolutely. Blah, blah, love corporate"
Interviewer: "you do realize our firm is almost entirely litigation, right?"
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Yeah, it's the equivalent of asking whether I want a ham sandwich or a turkey sandwich and then saying they don't have turkey. Oh well, another one bites the dust...Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, that was unfair of her to ask the question like that IMO. One, rising 2Ls don't even really know what litigation or transaction mean. Two, she asked it all sneakily as if you had a choice.Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
Hope you can recover, bro.
I've spoken with several interviewers, and sometimes they say that they just ask that question to get a feel for the student but don't see it as a commitment or anything because they know that most 1Ls don't know what the fuck lit or corp is.
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Yeah, but it seems like the firm recruiter just called him and asked him the question. It's not like he walked into the interview room blind.Randomnumbers wrote:Yeah but the least you should do before you interview with a firm is know what kind of work they do. It's not too much to ask - just check the nalp practice areas. That's a pretty low bar to expect an applicant to reach.
I would be the same way. I mass mail a ton of firms. If one random one from Smith, Jones, and Brown called me, I wouldn't be able to recall of the top of my head whether they did lit or not.
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Original anon. I've mass mailed ~200 firms thus far and haven't been discriminating with regards to practice area(s). I wasn't able to pull up their NALP profile before the question was asked. Regardless, it was probably a fatal mistake. I won't be holding my breath for this one. Sucks, though, because it's a great mid-sized firm and in the market closest to my hometown.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, but it seems like the firm recruiter just called him and asked him the question. It's not like he walked into the interview room blind.Randomnumbers wrote:Yeah but the least you should do before you interview with a firm is know what kind of work they do. It's not too much to ask - just check the nalp practice areas. That's a pretty low bar to expect an applicant to reach.
I would be the same way. I mass mail a ton of firms. If one random one from Smith, Jones, and Brown called me, I wouldn't be able to recall of the top of my head whether they did lit or not.
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In a callback, meeting with the hiring partner. Asked him if he could change anything about the firm, what it would be. For future reference, I'm a suburban white male, k-JD.
He starts talking about how the firm is really trying to improve its diversity, how they're really committed to their diversity programs, how important it is to get people of different backgrounds and experiences, how the clientele is changing and it's important to have associates who can make a personal connection with them, how they bring a different lens to view complicated legal issues with, yada yada yada.
Me: Could you maybe forget about that when you decide whether to hire me?
Offer.
He starts talking about how the firm is really trying to improve its diversity, how they're really committed to their diversity programs, how important it is to get people of different backgrounds and experiences, how the clientele is changing and it's important to have associates who can make a personal connection with them, how they bring a different lens to view complicated legal issues with, yada yada yada.
Me: Could you maybe forget about that when you decide whether to hire me?
Offer.
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Did you get an interview, or was she just like "mmkay bye."Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
If it was just a recruiting person who called, and you got an interview, then I wouldn't sweat it.
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Before you comment on another person's post, reading the actual post and having a comprehension of it at a level better than a five year old is an even lower bar to expect of someone on a forum frequented almost entirely by law school students and lawyers.Randomnumbers wrote:Yeah but the least you should do before you interview with a firm is know what kind of work they do. It's not too much to ask - just check the nalp practice areas. That's a pretty low bar to expect an applicant to reach.
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As a URM I find this absolutely hilarious. Glad you had the balls to say it and even happier you got an offer from it lol.Anonymous User wrote:In a callback, meeting with the hiring partner. Asked him if he could change anything about the firm, what it would be. For future reference, I'm a suburban white male, k-JD.
He starts talking about how the firm is really trying to improve its diversity, how they're really committed to their diversity programs, how important it is to get people of different backgrounds and experiences, how the clientele is changing and it's important to have associates who can make a personal connection with them, how they bring a different lens to view complicated legal issues with, yada yada yada.
Me: Could you maybe forget about that when you decide whether to hire me?
Offer.
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The firm is in a different city than my school, so she asked if I had plans to be in the area at any point in the near future. I said I didn't. She told me to let her know if I ended up being in the area so that they could schedule an interview. She then said that they would be making callback decisions soon and that perhaps I would hear from them. Not sure how to interpret all that...dixiecupdrinking wrote:Did you get an interview, or was she just like "mmkay bye."Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
If it was just a recruiting person who called, and you got an interview, then I wouldn't sweat it.
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OP here. Took it.ImNoScar wrote:Did you take the offer? If so, I wonder what your interactions with him will be like this summer.Anonymous User wrote:Strangest interview ever. Struck out at OCI, so did the mass mail gig and played to my strengths. Targeted offices abroad by directly emailing partners after preliminary research on whose practices were expanding.
So one night I am dead asleep and get a phone call around 3:00am. My gal at the time lived abroad. I see the number and it looks like a standard foreign call. Must be the gal.
Pick up. "Hey babe, how are you? [insert random sexual comment]."
"Hi...this is [Partner X from Firm Y], who were you expecting?"
I nearly shit myself. Met most of the staff at that outpost via Skype that evening. Offer came in.
No planning or forewarning on the call btw.
NOT a flame.
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At a CB in a room with a panel of four or five partners, several of whom are alums of my school. We're discussing professors and one of the partners is talking about his favorite professor and how he made an impact on him, yada yada. The name of the professor sounded vaguely familiar to me, so I say "I've never had professor so and so but I've heard from my classmates that he is phenomenal." After an awkward silence one of the partners says "professor so and so died several years ago." I can't remember if that was before or after my phone went off. No offer.
At lunch following a CB one of the associates made a passing remark about drug use in professional athletics. I spent the next five minutes recounting, in detail, the story of Dock Ellis's no hitter, which he claimed to have thrown while tripping on LSD. Awkward silence, followed by forced topic change. No offer.
At lunch following a CB one of the associates made a passing remark about drug use in professional athletics. I spent the next five minutes recounting, in detail, the story of Dock Ellis's no hitter, which he claimed to have thrown while tripping on LSD. Awkward silence, followed by forced topic change. No offer.
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Anonymous User wrote:The firm is in a different city than my school, so she asked if I had plans to be in the area at any point in the near future. I said I didn't. She told me to let her know if I ended up being in the area so that they could schedule an interview. She then said that they would be making callback decisions soon and that perhaps I would hear from them. Not sure how to interpret all that...dixiecupdrinking wrote:Did you get an interview, or was she just like "mmkay bye."Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
If it was just a recruiting person who called, and you got an interview, then I wouldn't sweat it.
Umm...that sounds like they want to schedule an interview with you. You should probably call back and tell them you will travel to x city for an interview (assuming you want the job).
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Partner spends 80% of the interview talking about how profits per partner are down and the most important thing for the firm is to keep the rainmakers sated so they won't bail on the firm and ruin everything, how they've overexpanded and now have to cut but it's tough because it's people blah blah blah.
Last 20% of the interview is me fumbling his only question "so, tell me why you want to work here..."
Last 20% of the interview is me fumbling his only question "so, tell me why you want to work here..."
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Do you mind posting what firm this was?Anonymous User wrote:Partner spends 80% of the interview talking about how profits per partner are down and the most important thing for the firm is to keep the rainmakers sated so they won't bail on the firm and ruin everything, how they've overexpanded and now have to cut but it's tough because it's people blah blah blah.
Last 20% of the interview is me fumbling his only question "so, tell me why you want to work here..."
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The reason you didn't get the offer isn't the drug content, it's because you told a boring-ass story and it was probably super awkward. That is not a five minutes story, that is a 1-2 sentence story, especially if you're just going off of a passing remark.El Dangeroso wrote:At lunch following a CB one of the associates made a passing remark about drug use in professional athletics. I spent the next five minutes recounting, in detail, the story of Dock Ellis's no hitter, which he claimed to have thrown while tripping on LSD. Awkward silence, followed by forced topic change. No offer.
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Screener for a twin cities firm, when I'm actually targeting other markets. I think I sold my (completely fictional) desire to live in a mid-sized, friendly midwestern market like MSP pretty well. The interviewer even gave me the great opening "and you play hockey! Of course you would like Minneapolis!"
I responded to that with "Absolutely! In fact, one of my long-time favorite players is now on the Wild...oh, wait, that's in Minnesota." As if MSP were not in Minnesota and the Wild didn't play in St Paul.
It was sort of a moment when both interviewers and I were all sort of talking over each other enthusiastically, so I'm hoping they didn't notice.
I responded to that with "Absolutely! In fact, one of my long-time favorite players is now on the Wild...oh, wait, that's in Minnesota." As if MSP were not in Minnesota and the Wild didn't play in St Paul.
It was sort of a moment when both interviewers and I were all sort of talking over each other enthusiastically, so I'm hoping they didn't notice.
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I'd like to work for them, but I'm reluctant to spend my own money on airfare for a screener...horseradish wrote:Anonymous User wrote:The firm is in a different city than my school, so she asked if I had plans to be in the area at any point in the near future. I said I didn't. She told me to let her know if I ended up being in the area so that they could schedule an interview. She then said that they would be making callback decisions soon and that perhaps I would hear from them. Not sure how to interpret all that...dixiecupdrinking wrote:Did you get an interview, or was she just like "mmkay bye."Anonymous User wrote:Just received a phone call from a firm I mass-mailed. I was asked whether I was leaning towards litigation or transactional work. I replied that I was interested in both but had a leaning towards litigation. She responded that the firm was almost solely transactional. Tried to recover as best I could by mentioning that I was very interested in transactional work and was taking a negotiations class this coming semester. Fawk.
If it was just a recruiting person who called, and you got an interview, then I wouldn't sweat it.
Umm...that sounds like they want to schedule an interview with you. You should probably call back and tell them you will travel to x city for an interview (assuming you want the job).
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Does that somehow mean it's not a "bad interview moment?" What the what?frankc wrote:The reason you didn't get the offer isn't the drug content, it's because you told a boring-ass story and it was probably super awkward. That is not a five minutes story, that is a 1-2 sentence story, especially if you're just going off of a passing remark.El Dangeroso wrote:At lunch following a CB one of the associates made a passing remark about drug use in professional athletics. I spent the next five minutes recounting, in detail, the story of Dock Ellis's no hitter, which he claimed to have thrown while tripping on LSD. Awkward silence, followed by forced topic change. No offer.
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No it's totally a bad interview moment, I just got the sense that the poster was trying to imply that him discussing drugs led to him not getting an offer rather than his weird tangent.El Dangeroso wrote:Does that somehow mean it's not a "bad interview moment?" What the what?frankc wrote:The reason you didn't get the offer isn't the drug content, it's because you told a boring-ass story and it was probably super awkward. That is not a five minutes story, that is a 1-2 sentence story, especially if you're just going off of a passing remark.El Dangeroso wrote:At lunch following a CB one of the associates made a passing remark about drug use in professional athletics. I spent the next five minutes recounting, in detail, the story of Dock Ellis's no hitter, which he claimed to have thrown while tripping on LSD. Awkward silence, followed by forced topic change. No offer.
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Not quite a bad interview moment, but I was pretty sure at some point this past week at a callback that a senior associate at a V10 firm was hitting on me HARD. (I'm a relatively attractive and slightly effete gay boy...) I thought I was hallucinating at first, but there were too many suggestive sentences for it to be a coincidence: "So we're looking for a candidate who might be... *receptive* to our needs..." and "Are you a team player?" (asked with a mischievous grin)
Once I figured it out, I had to quickly acknowledge what he was saying with a straight face: "Yes, evidently I am receptive, and I am of course willing to do whatever might be required to fulfill expectations. If a partner -- or a senior associate -- has work needs, of course he should feel free to, you know, pull me aside into his office and give it to me. Anything I can do to be of service, I am of course willing to do -- I am a team player." And when leaving: "It would be my pleasure to work under you next summer." (My downward gaze flickers upwards to meet his only upon pronouncing the word "under")
Offer. What can I say? V10 is V10.
Once I figured it out, I had to quickly acknowledge what he was saying with a straight face: "Yes, evidently I am receptive, and I am of course willing to do whatever might be required to fulfill expectations. If a partner -- or a senior associate -- has work needs, of course he should feel free to, you know, pull me aside into his office and give it to me. Anything I can do to be of service, I am of course willing to do -- I am a team player." And when leaving: "It would be my pleasure to work under you next summer." (My downward gaze flickers upwards to meet his only upon pronouncing the word "under")
Offer. What can I say? V10 is V10.
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If true, fucking BAWSSAnonymous User wrote:Not quite a bad interview moment, but I was pretty sure at some point this past week at a callback that a senior associate at a V10 firm was hitting on me HARD. (I'm a relatively attractive and slightly effete gay boy...) I thought I was hallucinating at first, but there were too many suggestive sentences for it to be a coincidence: "So we're looking for a candidate who might be... *receptive* to our needs..." and "Are you a team player?" (asked with a mischievous grin)
Once I figured it out, I had to quickly acknowledge what he was saying with a straight face: "Yes, evidently I am receptive, and I am of course willing to do whatever might be required to fulfill expectations. If a partner -- or a senior associate -- has work needs, of course he should feel free to, you know, pull me aside into his office and give it to me. Anything I can do to be of service, I am of course willing to do -- I am a team player." And when leaving: "It would be my pleasure to work under you next summer." (My downward gaze rises to meet his only upon pronouncing the word "under")
Offer. What can I say? V10 is V10.
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So you already have an offer then since you are passing up an interview opportunity? An opportunity at a place you would want to work?Anonymous User wrote:
I'd like to work for them, but I'm reluctant to spend my own money on airfare for a screener...
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