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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby crysmissmichelle » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 am

Our CSO's office swears that Judges are actually the exception to being able to ask for time to decide--they say if you accept an interview you are basically expected to accept any offer immediately, otherwise it would be seen as an insult.

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:11 am

Edit: Saw very similar question asked and answered above.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:16 am

crysmissmichelle wrote:Our CSO's office swears that Judges are actually the exception to being able to ask for time to decide--they say if you accept an interview you are basically expected to accept any offer immediately, otherwise it would be seen as an insult.

I think you can still ask when they need an answer by (if they haven't made it clear they're expecting an answer). If they say "I was really expecting an answer today" then you'd better answer. But I have actually found judges to be perfectly reasonable about this, despite what CSOs say.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:57 pm

kykiske wrote:Am I naive in thinking that once bar results come out, with hopefully good news that I passed, that my job prospects look better?


I got more interviews (per month) after I passed and was able to put that on my resume. So yeah, don't give up just yet.


Just scheduled another interview today, actually.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby kykiske » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:13 pm

TheFutureLawyer wrote:
kykiske wrote:Am I naive in thinking that once bar results come out, with hopefully good news that I passed, that my job prospects look better?


I got more interviews (per month) after I passed and was able to put that on my resume. So yeah, don't give up just yet.


Just scheduled another interview today, actually.


Thanks man. I've heard of 2014 grads not getting full-time offers until late October and into early November--i.e. after they passed the bar. But that's still quite frightening. Here's to some hope.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:08 pm

Just got back from an interview for a legal (non-licensed) position. Pay was decent for the region and responsibilities ($60k). However, I feel like they were a little condescending. They questioned why I wasn't practicing law. Like I've decided to forgo a trip to the magic job tree that is thriving in lawland down by the river of hopes, dreams, and optimism. Then I said I was interested in the position because it's related to X and Y and I'm really looking for a job that I'll love whether it's practicing law or not. The response was "Well, you'll mostly just be doing Z (like it was picking up roadkill)." I was genuinely interested in the position but the vibe they gave off was like: "Why are you here?" It sucks because some interviews I've been on have focused on the fact that I might not have enough experience (3-5 years) and I'm apparently overqualified for most of the jobs that are a step below.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby TheFutureLawyer » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got back from an interview for a legal (non-licensed) position. Pay was decent for the region and responsibilities ($60k). However, I feel like they were a little condescending. They questioned why I wasn't practicing law. Like I've decided to forgo a trip to the magic job tree that is thriving in lawland down by the river of hopes, dreams, and optimism. Then I said I was interested in the position because it's related to X and Y and I'm really looking for a job that I'll love whether it's practicing law or not. The response was "Well, you'll mostly just be doing Z (like it was picking up roadkill)." I was genuinely interested in the position but the vibe they gave off was like: "Why are you here?" It sucks because some interviews I've been on have focused on the fact that I might not have enough experience (3-5 years) and I'm apparently overqualified for most of the jobs that are a step below.


Doesn't seem that strange to me for attorneys to question why a law school grad isn't interested in practicing law. Sounds like you played it right though by just reiterating your interest in that type of work. Good luck.

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:12 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby crysmissmichelle » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:52 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
crysmissmichelle wrote:Our CSO's office swears that Judges are actually the exception to being able to ask for time to decide--they say if you accept an interview you are basically expected to accept any offer immediately, otherwise it would be seen as an insult.

I think you can still ask when they need an answer by (if they haven't made it clear they're expecting an answer). If they say "I was really expecting an answer today" then you'd better answer. But I have actually found judges to be perfectly reasonable about this, despite what CSOs say.


Really glad to hear that! It sounded really unreasonable for them to really be that way!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:32 pm

Ugh just gotta vent quickly. I've been trying to reach out to alumni from my law school that have similar backgrounds and do the work I'm interested in and they are all as COLD as fck. So much for that alumni camaraderie. I've reached out to practicing attys before and I've never gotten such a strong "we went to the same school, so what?" vibe.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby zot1 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ugh just gotta vent quickly. I've been trying to reach out to alumni from my law school that have similar backgrounds and do the work I'm interested in and they are all as COLD as fck. So much for that alumni camaraderie. I've reached out to practicing attys before and I've never gotten such a strong "we went to the same school, so what?" vibe.


Message me. Maybe I can help?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:58 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby ballouttacontrol » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:59 pm

,,, about par for the course
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby los blancos » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:03 pm

Hang in there. And breathe.

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Postby ballouttacontrol » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:14 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby ballouttacontrol » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:40 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby UnamSanctam » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:57 pm

She's not a dude, man.

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Postby ballouttacontrol » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:06 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby anon sequitur » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:54 pm

Hard to imagine you getting no offered.

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Postby MrMustache » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:23 pm

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:52 pm

Was told during interview this week that I'd be getting a call today either way for post-grad fellowship position. No call.
Call early next week or sit tight? :?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby zot1 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Was told during interview this week that I'd be getting a call today either way for post-grad fellowship position. No call.
Call early next week or sit tight? :?


As in decisions in general would be made today or that you would be offered today?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:03 pm

Would be offered or no-offered today.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby zot1 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Would be offered or no-offered today.


You can follow up next week, but it sounds like they picked someone else. Sorry, bro.




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