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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby LeDique » Sun May 25, 2014 12:22 pm

Kronk wrote:is this bullshit normal

The U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado is seeking an unpaid Pro Bono Law Clerk to U.S. District Judge Raymond P. Moore. In this position the selected applicant will assume duties traditionally performed by federal court law clerks. The selected applicant will be asked to make an aspirational commitment to the position for a period of 6-12 months with a negotiable start date, but no later than September 2, 2014. Preference may be given to those applicants who can start earlier. Applications submitted after the closing date will not be considered.


It was way funnier when Judge Martinez, widely thought of as one of the most friendly judges for the plaintiff's employment bar and former EEOC attorney, did this last year.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby lbg0125 » Sun May 25, 2014 1:43 pm

Kronk wrote:is this bullshit normal

The U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado is seeking an unpaid Pro Bono Law Clerk to U.S. District Judge Raymond P. Moore. In this position the selected applicant will assume duties traditionally performed by federal court law clerks. The selected applicant will be asked to make an aspirational commitment to the position for a period of 6-12 months with a negotiable start date, but no later than September 2, 2014. Preference may be given to those applicants who can start earlier. Applications submitted after the closing date will not be considered.


I have seen a handful of other federal judges do this. So, unfortunately, it is not unusual.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby jessuf » Sun May 25, 2014 9:03 pm

Kronk wrote:is this bullshit normal

The U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado is seeking an unpaid Pro Bono Law Clerk to U.S. District Judge Raymond P. Moore. In this position the selected applicant will assume duties traditionally performed by federal court law clerks. The selected applicant will be asked to make an aspirational commitment to the position for a period of 6-12 months with a negotiable start date, but no later than September 2, 2014. Preference may be given to those applicants who can start earlier. Applications submitted after the closing date will not be considered.

I just saw one of these on my school's symplicity page for a dist. ct. judge here in DC. The judge wants someone coming off of a fed. clerkship or with at least 1 year of experience. Is the job market that bad that someone with a fed. clerkship can't find any sort of employment so they have to clerk for free for a year?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby lbg0125 » Mon May 26, 2014 10:42 pm

lbg0125 wrote:Anybody have tips for an interview with a small, boutique-ish firm that practices in an area completely opposite of everything on my resume? I have a pretty solidly litigation-oriented resume and I have an interview coming up with a firm that does m&a/securities/corporate work. It interests me but I have no idea why I was chosen for an interview. I applied because I apply to virtually anything I might remotely be qualified for and did not expect it to pan out at all.


I had this interview back at the end of April. It turns out the firm is trying to expand its litigation practice that is related to its transactional/regulatory practice. So I would be stoked to get the position. I thought the interview went well. I waited till about a week or so ago and followed up. I waited over three weeks to follow up because the firm was pretty slow-moving throughout the process of getting information and scheduling the interview. Anyhow, after I called they let me know they "had not forgotten about me" but were still deciding. So I'm still waiting. I would have to move for it, but it would be great training/experience. Fingers crossed!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 10:41 am

lbg0125 wrote:
lbg0125 wrote:Anybody have tips for an interview with a small, boutique-ish firm that practices in an area completely opposite of everything on my resume? I have a pretty solidly litigation-oriented resume and I have an interview coming up with a firm that does m&a/securities/corporate work. It interests me but I have no idea why I was chosen for an interview. I applied because I apply to virtually anything I might remotely be qualified for and did not expect it to pan out at all.


I had this interview back at the end of April. It turns out the firm is trying to expand its litigation practice that is related to its transactional/regulatory practice. So I would be stoked to get the position. I thought the interview went well. I waited till about a week or so ago and followed up. I waited over three weeks to follow up because the firm was pretty slow-moving throughout the process of getting information and scheduling the interview. Anyhow, after I called they let me know they "had not forgotten about me" but were still deciding. So I'm still waiting. I would have to move for it, but it would be great training/experience. Fingers crossed!

good luck dude

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby jessuf » Tue May 27, 2014 10:47 am

worldtraveler wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
LeDique wrote:Just got back from an interview. Guy said he was only interviewing 3 other people, so hey, 1 in 4 shot of getting it. Seemed like he really liked me too. Pray4dique

GOOD LUCK, DIQUE

So I got a call on May 8th from a judicial assistant. She said the judge received my resume and wanted to interview me, and she was just calling to see if I was still interested in interviewing since several months had passed since I had mailed in my app. I said yes, and then she said I would be called within the next 10 days to schedule the interview once she knew when the judge wanted to do the interviews. It's now May 24, and I haven't heard yet. It seems like the chambers moves pretty slow, and I know you aren't ever supposed to call chambers about your app. Should I just keep waiting or should I risk it and call?


I would email or call the assistant and ask. People are busy and she might have just forgotten.

Was going to call now but realized that the original phone call is so old that it doesn't show up in my recent calls anymore. And of course I never wrote it down. And of course it isn't listed online. Oops.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby jessuf » Tue May 27, 2014 11:18 am

Jessuf wrote:
worldtraveler wrote:
Jessuf wrote:
LeDique wrote:Just got back from an interview. Guy said he was only interviewing 3 other people, so hey, 1 in 4 shot of getting it. Seemed like he really liked me too. Pray4dique

GOOD LUCK, DIQUE

So I got a call on May 8th from a judicial assistant. She said the judge received my resume and wanted to interview me, and she was just calling to see if I was still interested in interviewing since several months had passed since I had mailed in my app. I said yes, and then she said I would be called within the next 10 days to schedule the interview once she knew when the judge wanted to do the interviews. It's now May 24, and I haven't heard yet. It seems like the chambers moves pretty slow, and I know you aren't ever supposed to call chambers about your app. Should I just keep waiting or should I risk it and call?


I would email or call the assistant and ask. People are busy and she might have just forgotten.

Was going to call now but realized that the original phone call is so old that it doesn't show up in my recent calls anymore. And of course I never wrote it down. And of course it isn't listed online. Oops.

I ended up calling the courthouse and asked to be transferred to the JA for the judge. Whoever's voicemail I got (maybe the current clerk?) was not the voicemail for the JA I spoke to before, so I left probably a confusing message for her.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 11:39 am

How long do you guys usually wait before sending a follow-up email to your application? And how long is too long after? I have some things I applied to about a week ago, and other things I applied to about 2 months ago (sent a follow-up about a month after, received a "still no decisions" email back). These would be follow-ups expressing my continued interest in positions that were advertised as openings.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue May 27, 2014 3:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How long do you guys usually wait before sending a follow-up email to your application? And how long is too long after? I have some things I applied to about a week ago, and other things I applied to about 2 months ago (sent a follow-up about a month after, received a "still no decisions" email back). These would be follow-ups expressing my continued interest in positions that were advertised as openings.


Personally? 3 weeks to a month. YMMV.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue May 27, 2014 3:35 pm

Jessuf wrote:Was going to call now but realized that the original phone call is so old that it doesn't show up in my recent calls anymore. And of course I never wrote it down. And of course it isn't listed online. Oops.

I ended up calling the courthouse and asked to be transferred to the JA for the judge. Whoever's voicemail I got (maybe the current clerk?) was not the voicemail for the JA I spoke to before, so I left probably a confusing message for her.[/quote]


It's probably fine, Jess.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 3:47 pm

Graduating 3L here. I have an upcoming interview with a biglaw firm at a state where I have not registered to take the bar. Is this a big issue? Any advice?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby rad lulz » Tue May 27, 2014 4:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Graduating 3L here. I have an upcoming interview with a biglaw firm at a state where I have not registered to take the bar. Is this a big issue? Any advice?

They might ask about where you're registered to take the bar and you're gonna have to come up w a dece reason why you registered and that other state and reiterate your commitment to the location of the firm you're interviewing with

So yes it might be an issue. Nothing to do but prepare accordingly

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Bikeflip » Tue May 27, 2014 4:04 pm

Do the state bars have some kind of reciprocity? UBE states or similar? Is it too late to register for the other state bar?

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 4:52 pm

No reciprocity. It is not too late to register for other bar but cannot take both cause they are on same day. Due to late fee, it is pretty expensive to register for thie new bar. I guess I can register and cancel one of them depending on whether I get this job.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue May 27, 2014 5:12 pm

Put your best foot forward, do your best interview, and if they ask about the bar, be honest. They'll figure it out for you if they like you.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 5:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Graduating 3L here. I have an upcoming interview with a biglaw firm at a state where I have not registered to take the bar. Is this a big issue? Any advice?


If it's biglaw, how necessary is being licensed to begin with? Outside of potential questions regarding your desire to be in the area the office is, just say you will sign up for the feb test if it's too late to sign up for the july test by the time they hand out an offer.

I've seen quite a few linkdens where new graduates get licensed in one state but come october they are working for a firm in a different state.

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 5:31 pm

As the others said I wouldn't worry about it. If you have to sign up for another bar exam they will pay for it, though even if you get the job I'm sure they'll just let you be licensed in your current state and let you take the Feb bar/waive in eventually.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 27, 2014 11:14 pm

Anon with the bar issue here. Thanks for all the advice.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Void Six » Wed May 28, 2014 11:05 am

this is kronk

got that job up in the mountains

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby bjsesq » Wed May 28, 2014 11:10 am

Void Six wrote:this is kronk

got that job up in the mountains


DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE. MAH DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.

Fuck yes, man.

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Postby rad lulz » Wed May 28, 2014 11:19 am

Void Six wrote:this is kronk

got that job up in the mountains

That's some good shit bro

Grats

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Postby Void Six » Wed May 28, 2014 11:25 am

thanks dudes. very excited about it even if a little freaked out about having to do a real job for once. end of a couple stressful years.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby LeDique » Wed May 28, 2014 11:50 am

Void Six wrote:this is kronk

got that job up in the mountains


congrats man. coming to stay with you every weekend next winter.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed May 28, 2014 11:59 am

Congratulations kronk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Also I have mountain envy.)

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Postby Void Six » Wed May 28, 2014 1:06 pm

ty people. feel free to crash on couch for ski weekends dique.




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