chrisbru wrote: sparty99 wrote: chrisbru wrote:
sparty99 wrote:Consulting kind of sucks though. It is not the holy grail nor is it easy to get into even if you have a JD.
Lol no it doesn't suck any more than law does. No one claimed its the holy grail, nor is it easy to get into. It is, however, an option for some.
Have you done consulting? It's highly overrated. Many people bring up this option on this thread as if it's their savior from not getting Big Law. Everyone slow your rolls on the consulting gigs. There are many fields in business that are better than consulting.
I turned down a consulting job to take the job I'm in now. I have a plethora of friends who are in or have been in consulting roles. YES, I know what consultants do and how satisfied they are with their jobs. Have YOU done consulting?
Look, we already talked about this. No one said it's the holy grail. No one said its a savior from not getting Big Law. And no one said it was the best field in business. Someone asked questions about consulting, and we answered. Chill.
FWIW - Consulting varies widely, as I already stated. One of my buddy's made $120k and travelled Monday-Thursday EVERY WEEK. Others worked for "local" solutions companies and all of their projects were within 40 miles, so they never commuted more than an hour to work, but only made about $60k (albeit in Des Moines, which is decent money there). You can't just blanket state that consulting is "highly overrated" anymore than someone who hasn't gone to law school can state that being an attorney is "highly overrated." 90% of my consulting friends are happy and satisfied with their jobs, and make enough money to enjoy their lives outside of work. So slow your roll on the hate of everything.
So basically what you are saying is that you have not done management consulting. Okay.
Big Law is also highly overrated. Especially on the east coast. However, I never meant my comment to spark a debate between which is better Big Law or Management Consulting. However, I am arguing that consulting kind of sucks and that there are jobs outside of that industry. This might come to a suprise to many as this industry is consistently talked about in this thread as an alternative to people who did not get Big Law. If I didn't get Big Law, sure, fine I would try consulting. But the industry is not roses as it appears.
Many of the things that junior consultants do is mind numbing grunt work. Building powerpoint decks, doing excel pivot tables. Hardly exciting. The hours might not be east coast big hours. But they can be small town big law hours, where you are working 10 to 12 hours a day. And certainly when there are project deadlines, you will feel the grind. The exit options out of consulting are not as great as the industry claims it to be. You are usually a generalist. The salary can be good, but you can get similar salary in other jobs, especially if you have finance skills. You can do Corporate Strategy in-house. You can do IT implementation for JD Edwards. Additionally, it is rare that you will make six figures directly out of law school unless you went to Harvard-Stanford like school or have prior work experience. If directly out of undergrad, you are looking at $40-70k. Additionally, in consulting you have to deal with billing hours, clients, face-time, and other bs. There are benefits in consulting, but again, it is highly overrated.
There are many companies similar to consulting firms without the bs. For example, you can work at Digitas as an analyst. You can work as a Real Estate Associate at Jones Lang LaSalle. If you want consulting, fine. Do that. But I'm here to tell everyone, that there are other things you can do with your JD since y'all seem to think this is your savior to not getting BigLaw (Big 4 Tax is also not your savior)/
And to that home girl, let's set the record straight, at no time have I talked about suicide, how i'm depreesed about finding a job, or any such matter. But for some reason you tried calling me out as being negative. ha! The nerves!