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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby mr. wednesday » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:43 pm

Bikeflip wrote:
mr. wednesday wrote:For my mountain best friends:

DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COLORADO




Thanks, brew. Where'd you find this? I missed it on my scan of all things Mountain Best.

PSJD.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Bikeflip » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:16 pm

mr. wednesday wrote:
Bikeflip wrote:
mr. wednesday wrote:For my mountain best friends:

DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COLORADO




Thanks, brew. Where'd you find this? I missed it on my scan of all things Mountain Best.

PSJD.



Huh. How bout that. PSJD used to never have anything Colorado on it, but I'll start looking there again. Thanks Brew.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 pm

rad lulz wrote:
jaydizzle wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am a 3L that only wants to do transactional related work(i'll rather do non-law transactional work over litigation) and I'm wondering if you guys can give me some advice on where else I should be applying? Are there positions in banks and F500 companies that I should be looking at?


Ditto. I am also interested to know opinions about this.

Well, big firms are done hiring, and banks and F500 companies like to hire big firm alums

Most of the 3L jobs that are left are litigation

But you may be able to work for a small firm doing real estate/trusts/estate/wills/probate


Hi the OP to the question here. I am wondering what about transactional work for companies and banks that are not in-house related? I know of someone who has gotten jobs from banks straight out of law school and I'm wondering what type of positions those would be?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:07 am

Not sure what to do right now. There's absolutely nothing out there. Still under consideration for BigGov and a single mid-size firm, but no one else has responded to any inquiries and I haven't seen any postings. Doubt I get a job out of my current prospects.

For some morbid reason I'm not even worried; I think I went from anger, skipped sadness, and fell straight into a calm resignation. Losing a market paying job for reasons out of your control will do that to you, I reckon.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby sparty99 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:44 am

Anonymous User wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
jaydizzle wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am a 3L that only wants to do transactional related work(i'll rather do non-law transactional work over litigation) and I'm wondering if you guys can give me some advice on where else I should be applying? Are there positions in banks and F500 companies that I should be looking at?


Ditto. I am also interested to know opinions about this.

Well, big firms are done hiring, and banks and F500 companies like to hire big firm alums

Most of the 3L jobs that are left are litigation

But you may be able to work for a small firm doing real estate/trusts/estate/wills/probate


Hi the OP to the question here. I am wondering what about transactional work for companies and banks that are not in-house related? I know of someone who has gotten jobs from banks straight out of law school and I'm wondering what type of positions those would be?


compliance

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby jaydizzle » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:10 am

Any idea on the timeline for these jobs? My school knows nothing about compliance work, so I am going about it on my own.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby chrisbru » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:44 am

sparty99 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Hi the OP to the question here. I am wondering what about transactional work for companies and banks that are not in-house related? I know of someone who has gotten jobs from banks straight out of law school and I'm wondering what type of positions those would be?


compliance


Sparty, will you shut up? Entry-level compliance jobs are just as hard to get as entry-level law jobs.

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:52 am

also curious on the compliance hiring process and is it normal for them to hire straight out of law school?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby sparty99 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:36 pm

chrisbru wrote:
sparty99 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Hi the OP to the question here. I am wondering what about transactional work for companies and banks that are not in-house related? I know of someone who has gotten jobs from banks straight out of law school and I'm wondering what type of positions those would be?


compliance


Sparty, will you shut up? Entry-level compliance jobs are just as hard to get as entry-level law jobs.


Why don't you stfu? I certainly wasn't responding to you. I was answering a person's question. Banks hire for compliance and money laundering positions. If you have a problem with that, deal with it.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby chrisbru » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:37 pm

sparty99 wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
sparty99 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Hi the OP to the question here. I am wondering what about transactional work for companies and banks that are not in-house related? I know of someone who has gotten jobs from banks straight out of law school and I'm wondering what type of positions those would be?


compliance


Sparty, will you shut up? Entry-level compliance jobs are just as hard to get as entry-level law jobs.


Why don't you stfu? I certainly wasn't responding to you. I was answering a person's question. Banks hire for compliance and money laundering positions. If you have a problem with that, deal with it.


It doesn't matter who you were responding to. If you think there are entry-level compliance positions, you are out of touch with the current job market.

I'm not sure what it is you want me to deal with. Maybe you should deal with your immaturity as you continue to allude to "adult" language without being about to just fucking say (type, I guess) it.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:50 pm

Bikeflip wrote:
mr. wednesday wrote:For my mountain best friends:

DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COLORADO




Thanks, brew. Where'd you find this? I missed it on my scan of all things Mountain Best.


I think I might hit this up even though my résumé screams PD. fuck it, I'll take any prebar trial related I can get.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:52 pm

Compliance is possible after law school.

But having interned at a big bank in college in compliance, most of the entry-level jobs in compliance are for college graduates who have interned in compliance/ back office/ middle office functions during the summer (usually after striking out during recruiting for front office work, similar timelines to SA work for law schools). The next level up in compliance will usually be people who have worked their way up or entered after b-school with an MBA.

Some big banks now are opening up purely back office operations in smaller cities, and these positions are open for law students. I think Deutsche Bank has an office in Jacksonville.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby sparty99 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:53 pm

It doesn't matter who you were responding to. If you think there are entry-level compliance positions, you are out of touch with the current job market.

I'm not sure what it is you want me to deal with. Maybe you should deal with your immaturity as you continue to allude to "adult" language without being about to just fucking say (type, I guess) it.[/quote][/quote]


I'm immature? You are the twat who consistently cusses and comments on my posts. I see why you continue to get rejected. I mean, you just found out about money laundering positions and now all of a sudden you are an expert on compliance jobs? Perhaps you can go back to annoying someone else with your caustic attitude.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:00 pm

sparty99 wrote:It doesn't matter who you were responding to. If you think there are entry-level compliance positions, you are out of touch with the current job market.

I'm not sure what it is you want me to deal with. Maybe you should deal with your immaturity as you continue to allude to "adult" language without being about to just fucking say (type, I guess) it.
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I'm immature? You are the twat who consistently cusses and comments on my posts. I see why you continue to get rejected. I mean, you just found out about money laundering positions and now all of a sudden you are an expert on compliance jobs? Perhaps you can go back to annoying someone else with your caustic attitude.[/quote]

Sparty, you are constantly an ass. Knock it off. People disagree with you, you need to respond like an adult, with facts to back you up. You are the one coming off as caustic and immature.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby sparty99 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:03 pm

spleenworship wrote:
sparty99 wrote:It doesn't matter who you were responding to. If you think there are entry-level compliance positions, you are out of touch with the current job market.

I'm not sure what it is you want me to deal with. Maybe you should deal with your immaturity as you continue to allude to "adult" language without being about to just fucking say (type, I guess) it.



I'm immature? You are the twat who consistently cusses and comments on my posts. I see why you continue to get rejected. I mean, you just found out about money laundering positions and now all of a sudden you are an expert on compliance jobs? Perhaps you can go back to annoying someone else with your caustic attitude.[/quote]

Sparty, you are constantly an ass. Knock it off. People disagree with you, you need to respond like an adult, with facts to back you up. You are the one coming off as caustic and immature.[/quote]

I need to come with facts? I don't need to come with anything. I'll just continue to apply to the compliance job openings that I consistently see.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Dr. Review » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:07 pm

Any chance you guys can take this argument stuff to the lounge?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby chrisbru » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:08 pm

sparty99 wrote:
I'm immature? You are the twat who consistently cusses and comments on my posts. I see why you continue to get rejected. I mean, you just found out about money laundering positions and now all of a sudden you are an expert on compliance jobs? Perhaps you can go back to annoying someone else with your caustic attitude.


Sorry words bother you so much. Luckily, I have never interviewed with someone as abrasive and obnoxious as you, so I don't talk to interviewers like this. Or the vast majority of people, really. I just have a low tolerance for asshattery and superiority complexes.

It's nice of you to suggest that it's the first time I've heard of these anti money laundering positions. But the truth of the matter is that entry-level positions like that are virtually non-existent. If you know of any, you could actually be helpful and post some instead of just trying to make people feel like it's solely their fault for not having an offer, and that the lack of jobs isn't at all to blame.


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Bedsole wrote:Any chance you guys can take this argument stuff to the lounge?


You're right, I'm sorry. I really appreciate this thread, and get too annoyed about people that consistently come in here and stir the pot. I'll try to ignore it in the future, sorry for knocking it off topic.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:09 pm

Bedsole wrote:Any chance you guys can take this argument stuff to the lounge?


I'll knock it off.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Bikeflip » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:19 pm

spleenworship wrote:
Bikeflip wrote:
mr. wednesday wrote:For my mountain best friends:

DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COLORADO




Thanks, brew. Where'd you find this? I missed it on my scan of all things Mountain Best.


I think I might hit this up even though my résumé screams PD. fuck it, I'll take any prebar trial related I can get.


Looks like we're rivals then. Are you looking at Colorado specifically or nationwide?

ETA: Looks like you're a 3L looking far and wide. From experience, Colorado's hard to crack if you didn't go to CU or DU. Yay out of state trap schools. :| That doesn't mean it can't be done. I think Borhas is starting a gubmint/non-profit jerb here.

The Colorado Public Defender's office just had their 3L deadline, and I hope you sent your materials in. If not, contact them: http://pdweb.coloradodefenders.us/index ... &Itemid=61
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby chrisbru » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:34 pm

Bikeflip wrote:
Looks like we're rivals then. Are you looking at Colorado specifically or nationwide?

ETA: Looks like you're a 3L looking far and wide. From experience, Colorado's hard to crack if you didn't go to CU or DU. Yay out of state trap schools. :|


I've heard this about Colorado as well, but it can't hurt to try right? Especially if one has ties to the area, like family, I'd assume.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby legalese_retard » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:53 pm

Associate Attorney sought by Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP in New York, NY. Law degree plus 1 yr. exp. New York license required. Please email resume to hr@quinnemanuel.com. No phone calls will be accepted.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:01 pm

Bikeflip wrote:
spleenworship wrote:
Bikeflip wrote:
mr. wednesday wrote:For my mountain best friends:

DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, COLORADO




Thanks, brew. Where'd you find this? I missed it on my scan of all things Mountain Best.


I think I might hit this up even though my résumé screams PD. fuck it, I'll take any prebar trial related I can get.


Looks like we're rivals then. Are you looking at Colorado specifically or nationwide?

ETA: Looks like you're a 3L looking far and wide. From experience, Colorado's hard to crack if you didn't go to CU or DU. Yay out of state trap schools. :| That doesn't mean it can't be done. I think Borhas is starting a gubmint/non-profit jerb here.

The Colorado Public Defender's office just had their 3L deadline, and I hope you sent your materials in. If not, contact them: http://pdweb.coloradodefenders.us/index ... &Itemid=61



I did. Supposedly I'll hear something one way or the other in January.

I'm primarily looking MoutainBest though. I live in the state immediately south of CO.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby spleenworship » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:01 pm

chrisbru wrote:
Bikeflip wrote:
Looks like we're rivals then. Are you looking at Colorado specifically or nationwide?

ETA: Looks like you're a 3L looking far and wide. From experience, Colorado's hard to crack if you didn't go to CU or DU. Yay out of state trap schools. :|


I've heard this about Colorado as well, but it can't hurt to try right? Especially if one has ties to the area, like family, I'd assume.



Yeah, I have family within 60 miles of Cortez. And a friend in Dolores.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Bikeflip » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:09 pm

spleenworship wrote:I'm primarily looking MoutainBest though. I live in the state immediately south of CO.


Good deal. Sending PM.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby BarbellDreams » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:17 pm

Partner called me 2 hours before my interview to tell me that the position was filled and I don't need to show up. Ouch, especially with the scarcity of interviews in the Vale as is.




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