Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:53 am
70 hour work weeks? Counteroffer for at least 60k/yr with bonus options.
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lol I added youJenDarby wrote:I hadn't looked at mine in a while, but in the last few days someone in one of the courts I applied to (not the one I got an interview at) looked at mine. I feel like of you bother to look at my linked, you're interested. If you then don't offer me an interview, you're sexist or clearly threatened (joke).
People wouldn't ask me ab my job situation. But people with jobs would act like they had jobs, generally being slackers or talking about their jobs, etc. Or even worse, preemptively complaining about their jobs.Anonymous User wrote:I'm the guy who just replied to TTH. Also a rising 3L. Tangential Vale question: how are you guys expecting to handle the upcoming social divide of the Employed and Probably Unemployed (because nobody will confirm it) at school this year? My friends are cool, I'm not worried about them being dicks about my jerblessness, but I know everyone else is going to be asking me, and people are going to be boasting about their summer associate experiences and offers in the cafeteria and at the bars....just ugh. I know I shouldn't feel embarrassed about this stupid shit but I just think this is going to affect my social relationships in the upcoming year.
I like to make all my email subjects "GIANT ANTS ARE COMING! RUNNNNNNN!"kalvano wrote:I am utterly terrible at email subject lines. What's a good one for a distant relative who you haven't seen in a long time but works in a local firm and you're emailing to beg for a job? "Associate Position" or something sounds so random and non-family-ish.
180SBL wrote:I like to make all my email subjects "GIANT ANTS ARE COMING! RUNNNNNNN!"kalvano wrote:I am utterly terrible at email subject lines. What's a good one for a distant relative who you haven't seen in a long time but works in a local firm and you're emailing to beg for a job? "Associate Position" or something sounds so random and non-family-ish.
This. Seriously. If you haven't experienced it yet cause you're a rising 3L, get ready. At worst you're gonna get people directly asking you where you're working. At best you're gonna have people saying shit like "Man, I'm glad I get to relax now cause (insert biglaw firm name) is gonna work me next year. Good thing they are paying me DAT 160K". I actually know a person who, in a 3L facebook status wrote something to the tune of "Everytime I get sad because I didnt get an A in one of my classes I remind myself that getting a job was my most important class, and I got an A++ in that." Seriously, I don't think I have ever been as heated about a FB status as that. We had more than a few people who simply lacked the social skills to understand what the majority of their classmates are going through and just SHUT THE FUCK UP. There is one kid who posts daily updates about his new job on FB right now.rad lulz wrote:People wouldn't ask me ab my job situation. But people with jobs would act like they had jobs, generally being slackers or talking about their jobs, etc. Or even worse, preemptively complaining about their jobs.Anonymous User wrote:I'm the guy who just replied to TTH. Also a rising 3L. Tangential Vale question: how are you guys expecting to handle the upcoming social divide of the Employed and Probably Unemployed (because nobody will confirm it) at school this year? My friends are cool, I'm not worried about them being dicks about my jerblessness, but I know everyone else is going to be asking me, and people are going to be boasting about their summer associate experiences and offers in the cafeteria and at the bars....just ugh. I know I shouldn't feel embarrassed about this stupid shit but I just think this is going to affect my social relationships in the upcoming year.
Those people were in a different world. I think I only have like 5 decent friends left from lawl skool
I had a lot of trouble finding a photo where my head looked semi professional.rad lulz wrote:lol I added youJenDarby wrote:I hadn't looked at mine in a while, but in the last few days someone in one of the courts I applied to (not the one I got an interview at) looked at mine. I feel like of you bother to look at my linked, you're interested. If you then don't offer me an interview, you're sexist or clearly threatened (joke).
Couldn't add Jessuf
That is hilarious. I have a friend who goes to Pepperdine and I wish I could send that to him right now.Anonymous User wrote:just scrolling through Pepperdine's job listings on BYU jobbank and half the jobs are in Louisiana.. so CSO just searched for "LA" on some career sites and copy-pasted?
This. One of my employed "friends" from law school was busting my balls on FB about how I was still unemployed (even though I am not- he just thinks I am because guess what? I don't post that shit on facebook because I know that like 90% of my classmates are still jobless). Fuck that guy.BarbellDreams wrote:This. Seriously. If you haven't experienced it yet cause you're a rising 3L, get ready. At worst you're gonna get people directly asking you where you're working. At best you're gonna have people saying shit like "Man, I'm glad I get to relax now cause (insert biglaw firm name) is gonna work me next year. Good thing they are paying me DAT 160K". I actually know a person who, in a 3L facebook status wrote something to the tune of "Everytime I get sad because I didnt get an A in one of my classes I remind myself that getting a job was my most important class, and I got an A++ in that." Seriously, I don't think I have ever been as heated about a FB status as that. We had more than a few people who simply lacked the social skills to understand what the majority of their classmates are going through and just SHUT THE FUCK UP. There is one kid who posts daily updates about his new job on FB right now.rad lulz wrote:People wouldn't ask me ab my job situation. But people with jobs would act like they had jobs, generally being slackers or talking about their jobs, etc. Or even worse, preemptively complaining about their jobs.Anonymous User wrote:I'm the guy who just replied to TTH. Also a rising 3L. Tangential Vale question: how are you guys expecting to handle the upcoming social divide of the Employed and Probably Unemployed (because nobody will confirm it) at school this year? My friends are cool, I'm not worried about them being dicks about my jerblessness, but I know everyone else is going to be asking me, and people are going to be boasting about their summer associate experiences and offers in the cafeteria and at the bars....just ugh. I know I shouldn't feel embarrassed about this stupid shit but I just think this is going to affect my social relationships in the upcoming year.
Those people were in a different world. I think I only have like 5 decent friends left from lawl skool
holy fuck i want to commit a felonyBarbellDreams wrote: I actually know a person who, in a 3L facebook status wrote something to the tune of "Everytime I get sad because I didnt get an A in one of my classes I remind myself that getting a job was my most important class, and I got an A++ in that."
I added you, but with no photo I'm not sure how you think employers can decide whether you're worth interviewing or not.Jessuf wrote:Why not?rad lulz wrote:lol I added youJenDarby wrote:I hadn't looked at mine in a while, but in the last few days someone in one of the courts I applied to (not the one I got an interview at) looked at mine. I feel like of you bother to look at my linked, you're interested. If you then don't offer me an interview, you're sexist or clearly threatened (joke).
Couldn't add Jessuf
I can't wait to only be connected to TLSers on Linkedin.
I can't even comprehend what kind of person would do that to another human. What would motivate that, other than pure sociopathy?Void wrote: This. One of my employed "friends" from law school was busting my balls on FB about how I was still unemployed (even though I am not- he just thinks I am because guess what? I don't post that shit on facebook because I know that like 90% of my classmates are still jobless). Fuck that guy.
This x 1000. Logically this makes no sense to me. I get that employers might be more WILLING to hir when results are out, but the # of postings and jobs from now to then wont magically increase.deadpanic wrote:Talked with Career Services today. "A lot more jobs will open up after bar results."
Are they just saying this to make you feel better or is there any truth to this? Right now, there are just no jobs whether you are licensed or not. I can't see that changing all of a sudden once bar results are released.
I think this is a good point, but I have also heard a lot of anecdotal evidence suggesting that there is another hiring spike once you pass the bar and are licenced.BarbellDreams wrote:This x 1000. Logically this makes no sense to me. I get that employers might be more WILLING to hir when results are out, but the # of postings and jobs from now to then wont magically increase.deadpanic wrote:Talked with Career Services today. "A lot more jobs will open up after bar results."
Are they just saying this to make you feel better or is there any truth to this? Right now, there are just no jobs whether you are licensed or not. I can't see that changing all of a sudden once bar results are released.
But won't there be more jobs, not as an absolute number but as a percentage that you are eligible for? I see postings now fairly often that say "must be licensed at time of application."BarbellDreams wrote:This x 1000. Logically this makes no sense to me. I get that employers might be more WILLING to hir when results are out, but the # of postings and jobs from now to then wont magically increase.deadpanic wrote:Talked with Career Services today. "A lot more jobs will open up after bar results."
Are they just saying this to make you feel better or is there any truth to this? Right now, there are just no jobs whether you are licensed or not. I can't see that changing all of a sudden once bar results are released.
Update: I sent the email yesterday evening. Got a call about 10 am from the partner that wasn't in the interview. Said the associate had good things to say about me, and we had a sort of screener over the phone. Should know about callbacks in 2 weeks. Sounds like a fun firm, and you really get to hit the ground running.chrisbru wrote:It was OCI... So, yeah, pretty much a screener.NYstate wrote:Was this a screener?chrisbru wrote:Quoting this because I didn't get any responses....chrisbru wrote:So.... I had an OCI interview with a firm I really liked yesterday. My interview time was late in the day, and the partner had to leave right before my time slot for another engagement. So I interviewed with a c/o 2012 grad from my school who I know tangentially who has been with the firm ~1 year. It was a good interview, and I could tell he thought I was a good fit... But he's only been there a year.
Should I email the partner that was supposed to be in that time slot and ask if he has a little bit of time to speak with me on the phone or something?
Maybe contact recruiting to see if they want to reschedule.
Edit: they don't have "recruiting," they are only about 18 attorneys.
Technically I wasn't even supposed to receive an offer form the place I'm at now because I'm not licensed and they really needed a licensed attorney. I got lucky because my interviewing partner really liked me and is close friends with a professional associate of mine who gave me glowing reviews. Interviewing partner convinced the other partners to hire me. So, I definitely think more doors will open for you, and others, after bar results come out.deadpanic wrote:Talked with Career Services today. "A lot more jobs will open up after bar results."
Are they just saying this to make you feel better or is there any truth to this? Right now, there are just no jobs whether you are licensed or not. I can't see that changing all of a sudden once bar results are released.