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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:22 pm
by Anonymous User
As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
You're either just a troll or an animal who doesn't belong in the field of law. Get the hell out. You're a terrible person and probably a terrible lawyer.
P.S. Ever heard of false advertising?
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:23 pm
by Broseidon
sirpartner82 wrote:As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
I'm glad our misery has entertainment value for you
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:33 pm
by chrisbru
sirpartner82 wrote:As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
Pretty sure this is illegal, and even if it isn't, it is strongly deserving of a jaw-dropping quantity (and quality) of swift kicks to the dick.
You can make more than that waiting tables for chrissakes. And generally doing any full-time job that requires a 4-year degree.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:34 pm
by gwuorbust
Broseidon wrote:sirpartner82 wrote:As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
I'm glad our misery has entertainment value for you
I think this guy is a troll..who would pay $25 just to be an asshole? There are a lot cheaper ways to be an asshole.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:46 pm
by 20160810
sirpartner82 wrote:As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
Really fighting that "shitlaw" label, I see.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:29 pm
by jess
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:26 pm
by rad lulz
Jessuf wrote:I decided to submit some bids in OCI for the hell of it. Received zero firm interviews. This is 100% lottery, so this probably means everyone in my school also bid on the few firms interested in 3Ls. lol
3LOLCI sucks
There were 8 orgs at my school
I think 5 were firms
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:35 pm
by Georgia Avenue
guys, sirpartner is a troll, just stop feeding him
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:38 pm
by FeelTheHeat
rad lulz wrote:Jessuf wrote:I decided to submit some bids in OCI for the hell of it. Received zero firm interviews. This is 100% lottery, so this probably means everyone in my school also bid on the few firms interested in 3Ls. lol
3LOLCI sucks
There were 8 orgs at my school
I think 5 were firms
Are you poasting in the middle of taking the bar?
You are the people's champ
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by nygrrrl
sirpartner82 wrote:As a small-firm partner, understand that we sometimes run ads for associates just to gauge the level of desperation out there, and also to "jaw-drop" at the sheer quantity (and quality) of resumes that come pouring in like a monsoon.
Any non-Biglaw firm paying a newbie anything more than $10 to $12 an hour is crazy. The supply-demand metrics are so absurdly in favor of the employers it's downright comical.
Watching you. Tread carefully.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:12 pm
by rad lulz
FeelTheHeat wrote:rad lulz wrote:Jessuf wrote:I decided to submit some bids in OCI for the hell of it. Received zero firm interviews. This is 100% lottery, so this probably means everyone in my school also bid on the few firms interested in 3Ls. lol
3LOLCI sucks
There were 8 orgs at my school
I think 5 were firms
Are you poasting in the middle of taking the bar?
You are the people's champ
yeah mah ban expired today braj
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:13 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Well, place I was hoping for just said no. A day before the bar exam. I spent some time on a bridge tonight. I don't feel good.
Hey . . . Hope you are doing okay, and that you crushed day 1.
I have been at that point before. Just think of someone, anyone, who would be heartbroken if you were to do that. Sometimes that is what keeps me going. Knowing you will be missed. That there truly is someone who will care.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:14 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Well, place I was hoping for just said no. A day before the bar exam. I spent some time on a bridge tonight. I don't feel good.
Hey . . . Hope you are doing okay, and that you crushed day 1.
I have been at that point before. Just think of someone, anyone, who would be heartbroken if you were to do that. Sometimes that is what keeps me going. Knowing you will be missed. That there truly is someone who will care.
Again, if anyone wants to PM me or whatever, feel free. No judgment. Get counseling. It is very helpful.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:18 pm
by Anonymous User
rad lulz wrote:
Again, if anyone wants to PM me or whatever, feel free. No judgment. Get counseling. It is very helpful.
If you're a rising 3L and you're feeling down do this. Your school should offer services. After the
summer associate job search beat me to shit I finally saw a therapist and I'm feeling so much better.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:23 pm
by Anonymous User
If someone's position on Linkedin reads, "Contract Attorney", does that = doc review?
Just wonderin cuz I saw profiles of folks from my T30 who graduated in the past three years who've had a string of "Contract Attorney" positions.
Oh, and sirpartner, you are scum.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:26 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:If someone's position on Linkedin reads, "Contract Attorney", does that = doc review?
Just wonderin cuz I saw profiles of folks from my T30 who graduated in the past three years who've had a string of "Contract Attorney" positions.
Oh, and sirpartner, you are scum.
Different things at different firms
All the way from doc review monkey to dude who does associate type work for less money
See "staff atty"
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:37 pm
by Anonymous User
^ Thanks. Is doc review a scarlet letter, or are folks stuck in such positions ever able to eventually obtain solid FT LT gov/PI work ITE? (I'm assuming big firms would look down on such work, and regardless, dat ship has sailed for me)
:sigh:
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:43 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:^ Thanks. Is doc review a scarlet letter, or are folks stuck in such positions ever able to eventually obtain solid FT LT gov/PI work ITE? (I'm assuming big firms would look down on such work, and regardless, dat ship has sailed for me)
:sigh:
If you take doc review work, leave it off your resume
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:46 pm
by Anonymous User
rad lulz wrote:Anonymous User wrote:^ Thanks. Is doc review a scarlet letter, or are folks stuck in such positions ever able to eventually obtain solid FT LT gov/PI work ITE? (I'm assuming big firms would look down on such work, and regardless, dat ship has sailed for me)
:sigh:
If you take doc review work, leave it off your resume
How to fill the gap, tho? Doc review for the dough and PT pro bono work for a legal aid society to get legit resume-building experience?
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:50 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:rad lulz wrote:Anonymous User wrote:^ Thanks. Is doc review a scarlet letter, or are folks stuck in such positions ever able to eventually obtain solid FT LT gov/PI work ITE? (I'm assuming big firms would look down on such work, and regardless, dat ship has sailed for me)
:sigh:
If you take doc review work, leave it off your resume
How to fill the gap, tho? Doc review for the dough and PT pro bono work for a legal aid society to get legit resume-building experience?
If you can swing it. Doc review isn't a steady job.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:10 pm
by Anonymous User
Just got no-offered after my 2L SA (did my 1L summer there, too). Am I allowed to join this thread now?
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:11 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Just got no-offered after my 2L SA (did my 1L summer there, too). Am I allowed to join this thread now?
Sorry bro. What happened? Firm suffering?
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:13 pm
by Anonymous User
rad lulz wrote:Anonymous User wrote:rad lulz wrote:Anonymous User wrote:^ Thanks. Is doc review a scarlet letter, or are folks stuck in such positions ever able to eventually obtain solid FT LT gov/PI work ITE? (I'm assuming big firms would look down on such work, and regardless, dat ship has sailed for me)
:sigh:
If you take doc review work, leave it off your resume
How to fill the gap, tho? Doc review for the dough and PT pro bono work for a legal aid society to get legit resume-building experience?
If you can swing it. Doc review isn't a steady job.
Yeah, I can swing it. Live with the 'rents, and very grateful for it.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:17 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:rad lulz wrote:
If you can swing it. Doc review isn't a steady job.
Yeah, I can swing it. Live with the 'rents, and very grateful for it.
I meant more in the sense that you get on a project and you go for 10 hrs for a few days, and the projects ends before the end date, or you have to show up at random times to get on projects, and staffing agencies choose who to staff by who shows up the most, etc.
Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:18 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:Just got no-offered after my 2L SA (did my 1L summer there, too). Am I allowed to join this thread now?
Condolences bro
I know how that shit feels
Hopefully something in here is helpful for you too
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=212272
Just know that life isn't over bro
This ain't a reflection on you as a person