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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby MurdockLLP » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:28 pm

Saw posts for the Capital Market groups at Wilmerhale and MoFo (both NY) on my school's symplicity.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:08 am

For mass mailing, is it appropriate to send your application material to an alumni in the group you want to practice in? And if so, should you still cc the firm's recruiting contact?

Thanks for any help guys. And remember, all in the Vale will prevail!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For mass mailing, is it appropriate to send your application material to an alumni in the group you want to practice in? And if so, should you still cc the firm's recruiting contact?

Thanks for any help guys. And remember, all in the Vale will prevail!


Only mass email application materials to recruiting contacts. If you want to contact an alum, send him an email introducing yourself, noting your practice area of interest, and asking him if he knows what the needs of the firm are. He might just tell you to contact recruiting, but you might get lucky and he will ask you for your app materials, or he will invite you to coffee.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:58 pm

I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.


I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.


I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 international student in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby andythefir » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.


Apply to New Mexico's 6th DA.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:59 pm

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I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.

I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

OP here. As per the requirements of our OPT, we can't accrue more than 90 days of unemployment from the time the OPT period starts. This means that if we don't START working by mid-October, we will be outstaying our welcome and making us illegal :( Honestly, my visa status has been my crutch throughout this whole process... I originally got an offer from my summer firm, but then had it rescinded when I told them about visa sponsorship. It honestly makes me want to cry just thinking about it because the only reason I am in this situation is literally just because I was born in a different country :cry:

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:47 am

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I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.

I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

OP here. As per the requirements of our OPT, we can't accrue more than 90 days of unemployment from the time the OPT period starts. This means that if we don't START working by mid-October, we will be outstaying our welcome and making us illegal :( Honestly, my visa status has been my crutch throughout this whole process... I originally got an offer from my summer firm, but then had it rescinded when I told them about visa sponsorship. It honestly makes me want to cry just thinking about it because the only reason I am in this situation is literally just because I was born in a different country :cry:


This is all true but you CAN actually find a part-time job (e.g. clerking for a solo practitioner) or volunteer position such as unpaid internship/research assistant for a professor. These positions will count as employment for OPT purposes. While these jobs certainly aren't ideal or permanent, they will allow you more time to stay in the country and look for an actual job.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:
I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.

I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

OP here. As per the requirements of our OPT, we can't accrue more than 90 days of unemployment from the time the OPT period starts. This means that if we don't START working by mid-October, we will be outstaying our welcome and making us illegal :( Honestly, my visa status has been my crutch throughout this whole process... I originally got an offer from my summer firm, but then had it rescinded when I told them about visa sponsorship. It honestly makes me want to cry just thinking about it because the only reason I am in this situation is literally just because I was born in a different country :cry:


This is all true but you CAN actually find a part-time job (e.g. clerking for a solo practitioner) or volunteer position such as unpaid internship/research assistant for a professor. These positions will count as employment for OPT purposes. While these jobs certainly aren't ideal or permanent, they will allow you to stay in the country to look for an actual job.


Accidental double post

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:36 pm

This is all true but you CAN actually find a part-time job (e.g. clerking for a solo practitioner) or volunteer position such as unpaid internship/research assistant for a professor. These positions will count as employment for OPT purposes. While these jobs certainly aren't ideal or permanent, they will allow you to stay in the country to look for an actual job.

Very true, but at this point, I don't know how much longer I can do this anymore. I have sent out +800 job applications/cold emails to every single firm or company that I can find/think of. I've attended countless network events. Had 14 "coffees"/informational interviews. And still nothing. Ironically enough, the only places that I HAVE received interest from are BIG law firms, and as soon as I mention visa status, they're like "Oooh, do we do that?" It just gets demoralizing at some point. Sorry, did not mean to vent.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby FamilyLawEsq » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:55 pm

Saw post for associate who has LLM in tax, CPA, accounting experience or transferrable skills for 20+ attorney law firm in South
Central PA. Send resume and cover letter to msmith@n-hlaw.com

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby njdevils2626 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:
I guess that's it for me. Unless I lock down a job in the next 30 days and start working soon thereafter, gonna get deported. Thank you for all the support thus far. Although it didn't work out for me, it was comforting to have some people to weather this out with. Thank you.

I'm so sorry to hear that - why do you have to leave the country if I may ask? I'm a Class of 2017 in a similar situation. From I understand, our OPT status doesn't expire until like next July, no? I'm sure you can find some kind of part-time/volunteer job now to tide things over.

OP here. As per the requirements of our OPT, we can't accrue more than 90 days of unemployment from the time the OPT period starts. This means that if we don't START working by mid-October, we will be outstaying our welcome and making us illegal :( Honestly, my visa status has been my crutch throughout this whole process... I originally got an offer from my summer firm, but then had it rescinded when I told them about visa sponsorship. It honestly makes me want to cry just thinking about it because the only reason I am in this situation is literally just because I was born in a different country :cry:


This is all true but you CAN actually find a part-time job (e.g. clerking for a solo practitioner) or volunteer position such as unpaid internship/research assistant for a professor. These positions will count as employment for OPT purposes. While these jobs certainly aren't ideal or permanent, they will allow you to stay in the country to look for an actual job.


Accidental double post


If I'm not mistaken, OPT requires all jobs to be paid positions directly related to your field of study and which cannot be on-campus/school-funded to count as employment.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:33 pm

I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Congrats!! Are you 2017 or 2018? How did you get the gig?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Congrats!! Are you 2017 or 2018? How did you get the gig?


2018. Sent an email, got a screener, a callback, and an offer all within 48 hours. Pretty wild.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.


T14. 3.30. Summered at another firm.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.


T14. 3.30. Summered at another firm.


Why were you in the Vale if you summered, no offer?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.


T14. 3.30. Summered at another firm.


Why were you in the Vale if you summered, no offer?


Yep.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:42 am

For AmLaw firms without a nalp page, or firms without recruiting emails on the nalp page, how do you find the recruiting email? Just surf the firm website?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby SFSpartan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:45 am

For anyone with ties to the Central Valley (CA) and an interest in corporate work - Dowling Aaron is looking for corporate associates.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For AmLaw firms without a nalp page, or firms without recruiting emails on the nalp page, how do you find the recruiting email? Just surf the firm website?


Call reception and ask for the email. It's always worked for me.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby eminentdomain » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:07 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.


T14. 3.30. Summered at another firm.


Why were you in the Vale if you summered, no offer?


Yep.


Can you pm me the name of the firm please? Thanks!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:05 pm

eminentdomain wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I'm out of the Vale boys and girls. V10 firm in a secondary market. Good luck to everyone!


Can you give us stats (school range/gpa/level of work experience)? Thanks.


T14. 3.30. Summered at another firm.


Why were you in the Vale if you summered, no offer?


Yep.


Can you pm me the name of the firm please? Thanks!


I don't see what the point of that would be.




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