I would have preferred email, then call if you wish to discuss. I was flustered as fuck when I got the call (2/3 summers got no-offered and I was the first one called). I was definitely not prepared for the news and was taken aback. I wanted to weep and rage at the same time, and I bet the hiring partner could tell.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, I got the no-offer via phone as well. I felt it was much more respectable than a letter.Anonymous User wrote: I have been no offered and rejected via phone. The no offer I kind of expected but the rejection was something I really thought I had in the bag and was a sweet opportunity so that was a direct kick in the dick. I still think I prefer phone calls to letters. Less cowardly.
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I kinda knew mine was coming. The whole situation didn't get resolved till like Thanksgiving, and by then I had a damn good feeling it wasn't in the cards. At that point, the call was just a formality, but it was an appreciated gesture.Anonymous User wrote:I would have preferred email, then call if you wish to discuss. I was flustered as fuck when I got the call (2/3 summers got no-offered and I was the first one called). I was definitely not prepared for the news and was taken aback. I wanted to weep and rage at the same time, and I bet the hiring partner could tell.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, I got the no-offer via phone as well. I felt it was much more respectable than a letter.Anonymous User wrote: I have been no offered and rejected via phone. The no offer I kind of expected but the rejection was something I really thought I had in the bag and was a sweet opportunity so that was a direct kick in the dick. I still think I prefer phone calls to letters. Less cowardly.
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I'm still not sure how much I appreciated any part of the whole situationAnonymous User wrote:I kinda knew mine was coming. The whole situation didn't get resolved till like Thanksgiving, and by then I had a damn good feeling it wasn't in the cards. At that point, the call was just a formality, but it was an appreciated gesture.Anonymous User wrote:I would have preferred email, then call if you wish to discuss. I was flustered as fuck when I got the call (2/3 summers got no-offered and I was the first one called). I was definitely not prepared for the news and was taken aback. I wanted to weep and rage at the same time, and I bet the hiring partner could tell.Anonymous User wrote:Yeah, I got the no-offer via phone as well. I felt it was much more respectable than a letter.Anonymous User wrote: I have been no offered and rejected via phone. The no offer I kind of expected but the rejection was something I really thought I had in the bag and was a sweet opportunity so that was a direct kick in the dick. I still think I prefer phone calls to letters. Less cowardly.
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That sucks mang. Way back in 2L OCI, I had one firm, my top choice, left to hear back from after dings everywhere else, and I stepped out of the shower to see a two and a half minute voice mail from the recruiter. I preemptively fist pumped, then knew almost instantly from the tone of her voice it was a rejection. I don't think there's a worse feels in this whole process than what you just got, just giving you my support. Two years later, including 7 months of "volunteer externing" in that time, and I'm still in the vale. At least the silver lining is that my tax return had a net income of $50 this past year, so IBR will make my payments about 2 bucks a month. I also just found out I missed honors by less than .02, can't catch a break.bjsesq wrote:Just got the rejection call. Trying to find a discrete place to hang myself from.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Dealing with a break up during bar studying. It sucks. Really badly.
Law clerked at a V100 firm during the year, and they no offered me before studying for the bar ("no space"). This was after billing 40 each week over the year.
Life sucks at this point. Finding motivation to study for the bar is very very hard.
Waiting for a job to post from a reference, but other than I have nothing.
Vale of Tears=My life.
Law clerked at a V100 firm during the year, and they no offered me before studying for the bar ("no space"). This was after billing 40 each week over the year.
Life sucks at this point. Finding motivation to study for the bar is very very hard.
Waiting for a job to post from a reference, but other than I have nothing.
Vale of Tears=My life.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Sorry about the breakup man. You're going to be fine with a V100 on your resume. People know the economy sucks.Anonymous User wrote:Dealing with a break up during bar studying. It sucks. Really badly.
Law clerked at a V100 firm during the year, and they no offered me before studying for the bar ("no space"). This was after billing 40 each week over the year.
Life sucks at this point. Finding motivation to study for the bar is very very hard.
Waiting for a job to post from a reference, but other than I have nothing.
Vale of Tears=My life.
I was in a similar position except not even a V100 except it was going into 3L summer. The firm decided to hire new law clerks and terminated everyone in MARCH, without letting us know we should look elsewhere, after indicating they had wanted us to stay FT for the summer back in like Jan.
Somehow I lined up 7-8 interviews during the 3 weeks I was studying and taking finals and landed a FT gig for the summer.
You're in much better shape, so I'm sure you'll find something.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Just a thought for those in the Vale: As one of those out of touch shitboomers, I believe there is an area of need that some of you may want to consider and be able to fill. As our older courthouses are being updated, our courts require all our exhibits to be displayed via the computer. Fewer shitboomers are retiring and we have no clue how to present this evidence without hiring a tech person. This person attends the trial/hearing with the attorneys. Large firms have these professionals on staff while small firms do not. If you have the computer/communication background you may want to market yourself in this manner to smaller firms. Or if the practice of law is not what you thought it would be, you could provide the support. Having a law degree would set you and your company apart. I just came across this firm: http://www.digitaljustice.net
Again, just a thought for those thinking outside the box.
Again, just a thought for those thinking outside the box.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
I had a rejection by phone once, and it was the most disappointing experience of law school. I think it was even worse than getting no-offered last summer.
Sorry for your troubles, boo.
Sorry for your troubles, boo.
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Damn they did you dirty broAnonymous User wrote:Dealing with a break up during bar studying. It sucks. Really badly.
Law clerked at a V100 firm during the year, and they no offered me before studying for the bar ("no space"). This was after billing 40 each week over the year.
Life sucks at this point. Finding motivation to study for the bar is very very hard.
Waiting for a job to post from a reference, but other than I have nothing.
Vale of Tears=My life.
Billing 40 hours a week while in school, even during 3L year, is insane
Seriously though firm experience on the resume is a plus
But I understand how you feel. It's fine to mourn.
Hope something works out for your soon
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B.U.'s been posting a lot of those...Bikeflip wrote:Looking at another school's Symplicity, and they have a fellowship position I would love to do. Shame the fellowship is for their students only.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
GF and I just had a fight over finances. I feel like shit.
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Why do YOU feel like shit dudeBikeflip wrote:GF and I just had a fight over finances. I feel like shit.
Have you been just spending her $ or something
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Long time vale lurker, first time poster. I've got a second interview for a JD preferred position with a corporation. It's mostly reviewing and negotiating contracts. I won't be a real attorney, but it pays well, has great benefits, and is a strict 40 hour work week. I guess my question is if I get offerred the job and take it, am I limiting my exit options by not taking a job that requires a JD?
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Dude if you don't want that job I would take it in a second
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Probably, but you should take the job if you get the offerdfsad wrote:Long time vale lurker, first time poster. I've got a second interview for a JD preferred position with a corporation. It's mostly reviewing and negotiating contracts. I won't be a real attorney, but it pays well, has great benefits, and is a strict 40 hour work week. I guess my question is if I get offerred the job and take it, am I limiting my exit options by not taking a job that requires a JD?
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W/o too may details, here's the gist: She got laid off and wants me to pitch in more. I don't have a ton of money, being jerbless and all. While I'm not freeriding, she was paying more.rad lulz wrote:Why do YOU feel like shit dudeBikeflip wrote:GF and I just had a fight over finances. I feel like shit.
Have you been just spending her $ or something
I feel like shit b/c I know she's helped me out, and I can't return the favor. I also feel like shit b/c I was being an unsympathetic and stressed out asshole.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Regarding the jd preferred job, it will probably limit your exit options if you intend to work at a firm in the future, but it could also very much expand your opportunities within the corporation itself. Are you absolutely committed to practicing law? If not, I would take it in a heartbeat and get started on your career.
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Bar exam wears us all down broBikeflip wrote:W/o too may details, here's the gist: She got laid off and wants me to pitch in more. I don't have a ton of money, being jerbless and all. While I'm not freeriding, she was paying more.rad lulz wrote:Why do YOU feel like shit dudeBikeflip wrote:GF and I just had a fight over finances. I feel like shit.
Have you been just spending her $ or something
I feel like shit b/c I know she's helped me out, and I can't return the favor. I also feel like shit b/c I was being an unsympathetic and stressed out asshole.
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Thats rough man I know what that feels like. I saved up a ton from my SA before I was no offered but that savings is only gonna last so long and my fiancee and I are BOTH in the Vale. I call her naive but if she was as pessimistic as I was about this whole job post bar process this place would be a lot harder to live in.Bikeflip wrote:W/o too may details, here's the gist: She got laid off and wants me to pitch in more. I don't have a ton of money, being jerbless and all. While I'm not freeriding, she was paying more.rad lulz wrote:Why do YOU feel like shit dudeBikeflip wrote:GF and I just had a fight over finances. I feel like shit.
Have you been just spending her $ or something
I feel like shit b/c I know she's helped me out, and I can't return the favor. I also feel like shit b/c I was being an unsympathetic and stressed out asshole.
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Are you serious?! You should reject the job and leave my resume with HR on your way out.dfsad wrote:Long time vale lurker, first time poster. I've got a second interview for a JD preferred position with a corporation. It's mostly reviewing and negotiating contracts. I won't be a real attorney, but it pays well, has great benefits, and is a strict 40 hour work week. I guess my question is if I get offerred the job and take it, am I limiting my exit options by not taking a job that requires a JD?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
There's nothing wrong with being concerned about getting a job that could potentially eliminate the possibility of OP ever working as a lawyer. Granted, he obviously should take the job in order to eat, but continue looking for an attorney position if that is what he wants to do.BarbellDreams wrote:Are you serious?! You should reject the job and leave my resume with HR on your way out.dfsad wrote:Long time vale lurker, first time poster. I've got a second interview for a JD preferred position with a corporation. It's mostly reviewing and negotiating contracts. I won't be a real attorney, but it pays well, has great benefits, and is a strict 40 hour work week. I guess my question is if I get offerred the job and take it, am I limiting my exit options by not taking a job that requires a JD?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Depends on what you see as viable "exit options." If you are talking about an in-house position, you might become the ideal candidate for that because most companies are not looking for a gun-slinging litigation-ready attorney. They want someone who can negotiate things and keep the peace. No rocking the boat.dfsad wrote:Long time vale lurker, first time poster. I've got a second interview for a JD preferred position with a corporation. It's mostly reviewing and negotiating contracts. I won't be a real attorney, but it pays well, has great benefits, and is a strict 40 hour work week. I guess my question is if I get offerred the job and take it, am I limiting my exit options by not taking a job that requires a JD?
OTOH, if you want to do litigation, then yeah, this position might be limiting. But no matter how much other positions appeal to your interests, a bird-in-the-hand is worth more than two in the bush.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)
Sort of offered an associate position in a three/four person plaintiff's med mal firm (basically told that if I'm interested it's mine but no salary info yet). Not my preferred market but definitely somewhere I would work. I had wanted to do litigation so I guess this is kinda the same thing. In the Vale, but will this limit my options coming out? Between this and the bar I am just so stressed out. To make matters even muddier - my father is a physician ( ).
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This might limit your options to med mal stuff, but if you like it okay, it can be really lucrative manAnonymous User wrote:Sort of offered an associate position in a three/four person plaintiff's med mal firm (basically told that if I'm interested it's mine but no salary info yet). Not my preferred market but definitely somewhere I would work. I had wanted to do litigation so I guess this is kinda the same thing. In the Vale, but will this limit my options coming out? Between this and the bar I am just so stressed out. To make matters even muddier - my father is a physician ( ).
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