The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Dr. Nefario » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:13 pm

K&E and Latham in Boston have both recently posted looking to hire 3Ls on our school's symplicity.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:Is document review really that bad?


To my knowledge, every newbie attorney in any setting has to do doc review (biglaw, midlaw, small law, shit law, etc).

The issue is that you don't want that to be the ONLY thing you do (aka as full time contractor gig)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:11 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Is document review really that bad?


To my knowledge, every newbie attorney in any setting has to do doc review (biglaw, midlaw, small law, shit law, etc).

The issue is that you don't want that to be the ONLY thing you do (aka as full time contractor gig)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


Some doc review is fine. It's easy, billable, mostly mindless work. It's also boring as shit. So for a breather for a couple of hours a day, or even for a few days in a row, it breaks up difficult stuff, but if you have to do it full time (even for just a few weeks) it is fucking awful. It's like doing dishes or laundry. Nobody really minds these tasks on an intermittent basis, but doing it alone for days or weeks on end would suuuuuuuuck.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:35 am

Given this thread, I'm assuming anon was asking about doc review as a job.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:11 pm

Dr. Nefario wrote:K&E and Latham in Boston have both recently posted looking to hire 3Ls on our school's symplicity.


Any specialization listed, or just looking for general apps?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:16 pm

Accidental double post

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:50 pm

Skadden NY looking for 3L in exec comp

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:08 pm

Is it even worth applying to big firms 3L if we did government (fairly non-prestigious) both summers?

Median at CC, skipped EIP last fall.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Dr. Nefario » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Dr. Nefario wrote:K&E and Latham in Boston have both recently posted looking to hire 3Ls on our school's symplicity.


Any specialization listed, or just looking for general apps?


Both are general apps but their offices seem to be corporate heavy.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:43 pm

Dr. Nefario wrote:K&E and Latham in Boston have both recently posted looking to hire 3Ls on our school's symplicity.


Thank you! 3Ls as in Class of 2018 or recent grads of 2017?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Dr. Nefario » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Dr. Nefario wrote:K&E and Latham in Boston have both recently posted looking to hire 3Ls on our school's symplicity.


Thank you! 3Ls as in Class of 2018 or recent grads of 2017?


Very unclear. But it can't hurt to apply.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:34 pm

Median cc guy - what do you have to lose by applying?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Median cc guy - what do you have to lose by applying?

Most of them require cover letters, and I already have a bunch of interviews to prep for in that same window.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Vincent Adultman » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:34 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Median cc guy - what do you have to lose by applying?

Most of them require cover letters, and I already have a bunch of interviews to prep for in that same window.


It takes 30 minutes to write a cover letter. You don't have 30 minutes?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:44 pm

Has anyone heard back from their 3L Biglaw applications?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Nebby » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:41 pm

Any rising 3L interested in an entry-level litigation position at an environmental nonprofit in Chicago (to begin fall 2018)? PM me and I'll send you the info.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby gortega86 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:44 pm

I have posted before. I was middle of T20, class of '15. When I tell you this has been a tough stretch that would be an understatement. Almost two years later, after nearly hundreds of no's, I have finally landed a yes.

I started my practice doing doc review (3 months) after not being to land a gig following graduation, then got an offer from a small firm that turned out to be complete shit. I left that job after 9 months and finally landed a great mid-size firm job. I can tell you guys that the first job is hardest to obtain. I would advise you to focus on your practice area bc that experience will open doors. Do not allow a bunch of no's to deter you from your goals. Many on this site are negative and pessimistic but try to remain driven. Do what is necessary to stay a float until you able to get your dream chance.

I actually turned down a big firm gig to take this current opportunity because I felt the firm culture was a great fit and the firm's practice is still complex. Keep at it guys. Best of luck to you.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby ernie » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:06 pm

Awesome gortega86, and congrats!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby andythefir » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:19 pm

New Mexico's 6th, 13th, and 3rd DAs offices are hiring. 6th is down 2 people, not a single person has applied.

Ads for 13th and 6th here: http://www.nmbar.org/NmbarDocs/PubRes/B ... -08-09.pdf

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby lavarman84 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:40 am

andythefir wrote:New Mexico's 6th, 13th, and 3rd DAs offices are hiring. 6th is down 2 people, not a single person has applied.

Ads for 13th and 6th here: http://www.nmbar.org/NmbarDocs/PubRes/B ... -08-09.pdf


Only 2 people? Wow. I bet there's some good experience to be gained there.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:24 pm

Just accepted a clerkship in DC, looks like I'm out of the Vale for a couple years! Good luck to everyone.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:15 pm

For y'all 2017 people with no jobs out there, how are you curing the post-bar no job blues and what are you doing for job search right now?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For y'all 2017 people with no jobs out there, how are you curing the post-bar no job blues and what are you doing for job search right now?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)t

Postby Pokemon » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is it even worth applying to big firms 3L if we did government (fairly non-prestigious) both summers?

Median at CC, skipped EIP last fall.


Absolutely, know personally people that got hired this way in biglaw. Also, what do you lose.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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