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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any info on these judges would be great:
Eleventh:

Kravitch
Martin HIRED, alumni/off-plan
Tjoflat
Anderson
Barkett
Marcus off plan

Fourth:
Niemeyer HIRED, off plan
King
Wilkinson HIRED, off plan
Shedd
Floyd HIRED, off plan
Wynn

Sixth:
Cook
Guy
Batchelder HIRED, off plan
Kethledge HIRED, off plan
Cole
Clay
Keith
Kennedy
Rogers
Siler
Martin
Griffin


Floyd also hired off-plan; I updated this list.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:52 pm

Any info on Scirica would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:55 pm

Calls for Boasberg (DDC) made?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:00 pm

So the CoA hope list for the hopeless is currently, with 37 judges unaccounted for:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it. I am keeping this updated based on information posted below.
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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Calls for Boasberg (DDC) made?


Boasberg made calls.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:00 pm

Anyone know if Stranch on the 6th circuit has made any calls?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So the hope list for the hopeless is currently:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: McKee, Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Rogers, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey Williams
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:16 pm

Has anyone heard from:

Judge Blake (DMD, Baltimore)
Judge Schroeder (9th Cir., PHX)
Judge Bumb (DNJ, Camden)
Judge Daughtrey (6th Cir, Nashville)

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:17 pm

this whole parlay call business sounds incredibly awkward. people are just calling chambers and saying, "hey, i'm gonna be in the neighborhood, will you interview me too"? is that right?

seriously, though, can someone give me a better sense of what they're saying when they make these calls? thanks!

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So the hope list for the hopeless is currently:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: McKee, Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Rogers, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it.


Is this a list of judges you think nobody has heard from, or a list of judges that people have heard from?

FYI, McKee is not hiring right now...confirmed that yesterday when I called.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:17 pm

who do we know has made calls from N.D. Ill.?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So the hope list for the hopeless is currently:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: McKee, Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Rogers, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it.


Is this a list of judges you think nobody has heard from, or a list of judges that people have heard from?

FYI, McKee is not hiring right now...confirmed that yesterday when I called.


That we haven't heard made calls. McKee was on Oscar though?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So the hope list for the hopeless is currently:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: McKee, Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Rogers, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it.


Is this a list of judges you think nobody has heard from, or a list of judges that people have heard from?

FYI, McKee is not hiring right now...confirmed that yesterday when I called.


That we haven't heard made calls. McKee was on Oscar though?


Rogers made calls. Siler sent out emails saying they were reviewing applications - no idea if that went out to everyone, or just people who made it past the initial round-filing.

EDIT: 6th Cir. Rogers

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So the hope list for the hopeless is currently:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: McKee, Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Rogers, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it.


Kleinfeld called off-plan (rising 3L). However, I understand that he isn't necessarily finished for 2013.
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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:26 pm

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Rogers made calls. Siler sent out emails saying they were reviewing applications - no idea if that went out to everyone, or just people who made it past the initial round-filing.


I also got the Siler email, for whatever that's worth.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So the CoA hope list for the hopeless is currently, with 39 judges unaccounted for:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it. I am keeping this updated based on information posted below.


If this is really where things are and noone has heard from these 39 judges, I would say that is a really good sign. Maybe the judges feel more comfortable taking their time with so many applicants.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So the CoA hope list for the hopeless is currently, with 39 judges unaccounted for:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers, Sentelle
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Tjoflat, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

Let's narrow this down and expand it. I am keeping this updated based on information posted below.



Sentelle made calls.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:05 pm

Tjoflat had hired multiple clerks off plan back in the summer. I would assume he has filled all his positions by this point.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:07 pm

Down to 33 on the CoA hope list:

DC: Henderson, Randolph
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Anderson, Barkett

(These are CoA judges we have not heard made calls)

Anyone know if these judges made calls late last year?
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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:this whole parlay call business sounds incredibly awkward. people are just calling chambers and saying, "hey, i'm gonna be in the neighborhood, will you interview me too"? is that right?

seriously, though, can someone give me a better sense of what they're saying when they make these calls? thanks!


Former clerk twice over. I'm an HYS grad (roughly top 15 percent). I have clerked for a California federal district court and for the Ninth Circuit. I'm a couple of years removed from clerking, and I'm not going to say anything to which either of my judges would object, so I will provide probably a bit more detail than other people are posting in this thread. I will not, however, provide the names of the specific judges about whom I am talking. If I post more than once, I will sign my posts as "ClerkAnon" for people's reference.

My first time around, I had success parlaying interviews in a California district court and EDVA, but not in receiving offers based on my parlayed interviews. In EDVA, once I received one on-plan interview call, I called the remainder of the judges in the same city, and I received one additional interview. I received an exploding offer from the judge who had initially called me to interview in EDVA, but I did not receive an offer from the "parlayed" interview. In California, once I received an interview call from one judge, I immediately called all other judges in the district (regardless of the specific city.) I received one other parlayed interview. I did not receive an offer from either interview, but later received and accepted another offer from a different judge in the same district. (I'd actually called this chambers as part of my parlaying process, and while friendly, they told me that they were not able to review any applications or do any advance interviews because the judge was in trial. So they were simply thrown off-plan by their workload.) There were no parlay issues involved in my second clerkship application process as an alum, because my first interview turned into an immediate offer/acceptance.

Back to my experience with parlaying: I think it works to obtain interviews, but I would be somewhat cautious with giving your name off-the-top. I found that some chambers were very open to parlaying, and others were irritated by the disruption. I preferred not to give my name until I'd established that I was talking to a friendly clerk, CRD, or JA who was open to the possibility of parlaying. So I'd lead with a script like, "I've applied for a clerkship with [your judge], and I will be traveling from [faraway city X, where I attend law school Y] to interview with [one of his or her colleagues] on [date]. I'm very interested in clerking for [your judge], and I wanted to ask if [he/she] would be willing to schedule an interview when I'm in town." If I got a response like, "That might be a possibility - what did you say your name was again?" - I would take the risk of giving my name and letting them pull my file. But at other times, I got a frosty response like, "If we want to interview you, we will certainly inform you of that" - at which point I was very glad that I had not given my name and possibly jeopardized my chances with that chambers.

ClerkAnon

ETA I have seen people try to pull the ridiculous move of "parlaying" interviews in their own region. This does not go over well. E.g., if you are a Stanford or Berkeley student, "Judge X called me, so I am going to be in San Francisco for the day" is not going to get you very far. I wouldn't have thought this needed to be clarified had I not seen more than one person try it.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Down to 36 on the CoA hope list:

DC: Henderson, Randolph, Rogers
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: King, Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Anderson, Barkett, Marcus

(These are CoA judges we have not heard made calls)

Anyone know if these judges made calls late last year?


Rogers on the DC Circuit has made calls already this year, as has Marcus on the 11th.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:31 pm

Is trying a parlay on the D.C. Circuit an exercise in futility?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:38 pm

King on 4th hired off-plan.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Down to 33 on the CoA hope list:

DC: Henderson, Randolph
First:
Second:
Third: Vanaskie, Scirica
Fourth: Shedd, Wynn
Fifth: Benavides, Graves
Sixth: Cook, Guy, Cole, Clay, Keith, Kennedy, Siler, Martin, Griffin, Stranch, Daughtrey
Seventh: Bauer, Coffey
Eighth: Melloy, Bye, Benton, Riley, Shepherd
Ninth: Kleinfeld, Schroeder
Tenth: Porfilio
Eleventh: Hull, Kravitch, Anderson, Barkett

(These are CoA judges we have not heard made calls)

Anyone know if these judges made calls late last year?



It appears that the Michigan judges on the Sixth Circuit (Guy, Clay, Keith, Kennedy) are all unheard from and were not on Oscar. Henderson and Randolph from DC Circuit were not on Oscar and may not be seeking clerks for 2013-2014.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby kalvano » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:50 pm

Would you all who have interviews with state courts mind going to this thread:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=192072

And updating which courts you've heard from? No judges names needed unless you want, but just states would be nice.




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