2012 Clerkship Application Thread

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:48 pm

Any news about Boudin (1), Raggi (2), or Prado (5)?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Citizen Genet » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:04 pm

For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:15 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.


Based on six interviews between on and off plan (3 circuit, 3 district):
(1) No
(2) No
(3) No

Out of 400 applications, I personalized about 20 cover letters, none called. I had professors/deans contact around 10 judges, none called.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.


Based on six interviews between on and off plan (3 circuit, 3 district):
(1) No
(2) No
(3) No

Out of 400 applications, I personalized about 20 cover letters, none called. I had professors/deans contact around 10 judges, none called.


Grades?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:31 pm

Anyone hear if the judges on the U.S. Court of International Trade or Court of Federal Claims have scheduled any interviews yet or are still hiring?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:32 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.


Over 50 apps led to one interview request
(1) The judge graduated from my T2 law school
(2) Nope
(3) Personalized in so far why I wanted to clerk in that judge's city

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:34 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.


Non-Prof recommender knew one of the judges who gave me an interview. My other interview was from unpersonalized mass mail.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any news about Boudin (1), Raggi (2), or Prado (5)?


I know Prado hired one clerk weeks ago. Not sure how many others are confirmed.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby dudders » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:36 pm

This was a terrible day to get my phone stolen.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Prado made calls @ HLS today, FWIW.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:40 pm

For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.

Rising 3L at T14 school, probably between 10%-15% (3.8+)
No journals of any kind
Only applied to about 25 judges
Interesting resume and life experience

Two interviews with district judges, one in the state in which I'll be working, the other in my school's state. I had no connections or calls that I'm aware of, and both judges got generic letters. I did have at least 2 (purportedly) kickass letters from powerhouse professors, and one letter from a partner at my post-grad firm. Interestingly, the judge from my current state called my post-grad employer to ask questions about me, but I think it was after he had extended the offer.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.


Based on six interviews between on and off plan (3 circuit, 3 district):
(1) No
(2) No
(3) No

Out of 400 applications, I personalized about 20 cover letters, none called. I had professors/deans contact around 10 judges, none called.
This was my experience too. I took great care in personalizing ~20 cover letters out of 100 applications. Also with those 20, I dropped names of former clerks in the letters, had former clerks place calls for me, and had current clerks move my apps to the top of the pile. Not one of those judges called. That actually shocked me. I heard from 4 districts and 4 courts of appeal and I didn't personalize anything for any of them and had no connection at all to 7/8 of them. I had a tenuous connection to one of them (that I discovered long after I sent out my applications) -- over three decades ago, he worked at a firm where I summered. Definitely puts to shame the idea that highlighting connections gets you far. In fact, none of the usual wisdom perpetuated by law schools and students held true for me.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:55 pm

If you get an email from a judge asking you to contact their judicial assistant to set up an interview, do you thank the judge with an email back or just call the assistant to set up the interview? I assume the latter but interested to hear what others think...

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:00 pm

D. Colo. email just now.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.




I got 3 District Court interviews out of about 30 applications. For one of the judges, a professor called, (but without a connection to the judge) and I have interned for a judge who is a colleague of the judge and I personalized my letter to highlight that. For the other two judges that extended interviews, I believe the answer is no to all three. (I'm not 100% certain that none of my recommenders called, but I don't believe so).

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:18 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:For those having success (any interviews), can you please indicate whether you (1) had a connection to the judge (prof knows them personally, etc.), (2) had recommenders without a connection to the judge call them, or (3) personalized your cover letter toward the judge.

I applied to about 20 district court judges on-plan and had two calls—one call was earlier in the week and one was this morning. For both judges, I had no connection, did not have anyone make a phone call, and did not personalize my cover letter.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any news about Boudin (1), Raggi (2), or Prado (5)?


Strange combination of judges. Raggi, from what I hear, is full. Like other posters, I've also heard Prado made calls.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If you get an email from a judge asking you to contact their judicial assistant to set up an interview, do you thank the judge with an email back or just call the assistant to set up the interview? I assume the latter but interested to hear what others think...

The latter. It probably wouldn't hurt to send the judge a "thank you" email, but you would needlessly run the risk of coming off as weird. Just do what the judge says. You can thank him in person at the end of your interview.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:21 am

Do calls / emails go out through the weekend, or not resume again (if at all) until Monday?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:Do calls / emails go out through the weekend, or not resume again (if at all) until Monday?


Our career services said that it's unusual, but not unheard of, for calls to be placed on the weekend.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:51 am

Does anyone know what a good number is for scheduled interviews turning into an offer? I have 4 interviews scheduled (2 CoA and 2 D.Ct.) and I was wondering if this means I'm guaranteed to get something or if I need more.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:58 am

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know what a good number is for scheduled interviews turning into an offer? I have 4 interviews scheduled (2 CoA and 2 D.Ct.) and I was wondering if this means I'm guaranteed to get something or if I need more.

You need seven interviews. Seven is the key number here. Seven, man, that's the number.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdWntqCLwg

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:00 am

Anonymous User wrote:Awesome post.

Does anyone else know if Judge Kearse on the 2nd circuit has made any calls?
Yes, Kearse has made calls.

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:08 am

Is the consensus that all calls are generally made in the first day?

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Re: 2012 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby los blancos » Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:24 am

Do state trial-level clerkships generally provide decent exit options?




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