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SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:35 pm

I have a CB with SullCrom next week - anyone have information on this? I've heard in past years that SC often offers at end of the CB - anyone know if this is still the way it usually works? Or has this changed?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:43 pm

I think they've largely stopped doing this, so don't be freaking out if you walk out w/o an offer in hand. Back when their summer classes were bigger, they could afford to make on-the-spot offers.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:49 pm

S&C, to my knowledge, still gives offers at the end of the CB. Whether not getting one on the spot means an automatic ding or not, I'm not sure, but my guess is that it is.

BTW, while S&C cut its summer class years ago, it's back to pre-recession levels. More than 100 summers last summer and about the same this year.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:21 pm

Does anyone know if on-the-spot offers are the norm for S&C satellite offices as well? Or is it just a NY thing?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:58 pm

What's the callback to offer ratio?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby thesealocust » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's the callback to offer ratio?


Like 90%+ most years. The highest firm I know of.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:57 pm

Former S&C summer here. Many summers still receive end-of-CB offers, but some don't (anecdotally).

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:29 pm

Anyone know how ppl get dinged there at callback? <this guy did. Seemed to go fine.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know how ppl get dinged there at callback? <this guy did. Seemed to go fine.


Happened to me too. Thought the interviews were fine, then met the hiring partner for five minutes and was shown the door. He didn't seem impressed and told me had to wait for all the reviews came in.

Anyway, this was last year. I was convinced from TLS that all offers were given on the spot there, so I acted sorta pissy at the callback lunch afterwards. Looking back on it, I may have thrown away the offer there? (though they said explicitly that the lunch plays no part in the evaluation, unlike other firms) But my theory was that I was pretty borderline anyway (lower T14, GPA right at their cutoff, boring background with unprestigious UG, etc...), and the hiring partner just wasn't impressed. Ding letter a week latter.

Firm definitely wasn't for me anyway tho, luckily.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:36 pm

Had a CB there the other day and got an offer on the spot, so they are definitely still doing this. As far as what you should expect, it's your basic call back except they have a swanky lounge with cheese and snacks for you to wait in while they pull together the comments.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:40 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know how ppl get dinged there at callback? <this guy did. Seemed to go fine.


Happened to me too. Thought the interviews were fine, then met the hiring partner for five minutes and was shown the door. He didn't seem impressed and told me had to wait for all the reviews came in.

Anyway, this was last year. I was convinced from TLS that all offers were given on the spot there, so I acted sorta pissy at the callback lunch afterwards. Looking back on it, I may have thrown away the offer there? (though they said explicitly that the lunch plays no part in the evaluation, unlike other firms) But my theory was that I was pretty borderline anyway (lower T14, GPA right at their cutoff, boring background with unprestigious UG, etc...), and the hiring partner just wasn't impressed. Ding letter a week latter.

Firm definitely wasn't for me anyway tho, luckily.


...what did you do at the lunch? :shock:

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:45 pm

I also had lunch after the hiring partner told me not all feedback was in yet, and it sure was awkward for me - but I tried to hold it together and eventually did get an offer. It was certainly tough to be on that lunch w/o the on the spot offer, but apparently it isn't always fatal.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:53 pm

What's the deal with afternoon appointments? I assume there isn't a dinner, so do we just go home after we're done interviewing? Also, at my HYS school it seems like SullCrom at most doesn't give offers to 1 or 2 out of 40+ CBs per year and often gives 100%. Is the offer rate lower at other schools?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's the deal with afternoon appointments? I assume there isn't a dinner, so do we just go home after we're done interviewing? Also, at my HYS school it seems like SullCrom at most doesn't give offers to 1 or 2 out of 40+ CBs per year and often gives 100%. Is the offer rate lower at other schools?


Anecdotally, I'm at a T30 with a callback there and I think they gave offers to 3/3 students from my school last year who had CBs with them. To be honest, I think they know more or less who will get offers before the screener

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:37 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know how ppl get dinged there at callback? <this guy did. Seemed to go fine.


Happened to me too. Thought the interviews were fine, then met the hiring partner for five minutes and was shown the door. He didn't seem impressed and told me had to wait for all the reviews came in.

Anyway, this was last year. I was convinced from TLS that all offers were given on the spot there, so I acted sorta pissy at the callback lunch afterwards. Looking back on it, I may have thrown away the offer there? (though they said explicitly that the lunch plays no part in the evaluation, unlike other firms) But my theory was that I was pretty borderline anyway (lower T14, GPA right at their cutoff, boring background with unprestigious UG, etc...), and the hiring partner just wasn't impressed. Ding letter a week latter.

Firm definitely wasn't for me anyway tho, luckily.


...what did you do at the lunch? :shock:


Nothing too egregious, just was sort of negative. Obviously stupid now, but I was in a weird frame of mind around OCI.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:45 pm

While they have a 90% CB to offer rate, my experience last year was that those who interviewed late in the season were much less successful.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:While they have a 90% CB to offer rate, my experience last year was that those who interviewed late in the season were much less successful.


Lunch anon above. I was very late in the season.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:While they have a 90% CB to offer rate, my experience last year was that those who interviewed late in the season were much less successful.


What qualifies as "late"?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:23 pm

I have an interview early next week. Are there any general tips on ways I should talk about the firm or questions that are worth asking specific to SullCrom?

I really want this.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:25 pm

Play up the lean staffing model + the firm's focus on training generalists. This should get you a good portion of the way home.

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:16 pm

Another on-the-spot offer here. It really felt like they had pretty much made up their minds before the interviews started. To those with upcoming callbacks, just try to relax. They're already interested in you. But don't assume the worst if the immediate offer doesn't happen. Go in with the mindset that you might hear that day, but you might not. Convince yourself of this. Enjoy the beautiful office and nice lunch.

Anyone receive an official offer letter yet, or have an idea of when that might come?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Another on-the-spot offer here. It really felt like they had pretty much made up their minds before the interviews started. To those with upcoming callbacks, just try to relax. They're already interested in you. But don't assume the worst if the immediate offer doesn't happen. Go in with the mindset that you might hear that day, but you might not. Convince yourself of this. Enjoy the beautiful office and nice lunch.

Anyone receive an official offer letter yet, or have an idea of when that might come?

Does the nearly 100% offer ratio mean that the CB is less like 4 more interviews than a getting-to-know you/selling you on the firm session?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Had a CB there the other day and got an offer on the spot, so they are definitely still doing this. As far as what you should expect, it's your basic call back except they have a swanky lounge with cheese and snacks for you to wait in while they pull together the comments.

Its really just like others? Id have thought less interagatory and more of a salespitch given near 100 offer rateat that point. No?

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Re: SullCrom CB...

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Had a CB there the other day and got an offer on the spot, so they are definitely still doing this. As far as what you should expect, it's your basic call back except they have a swanky lounge with cheese and snacks for you to wait in while they pull together the comments.

Its really just like others? Id have thought less interagatory and more of a salespitch given near 100 offer rateat that point. No?


This is probably largely going to depend on who you talk to, and their interpretation of the interview process.

My experience was exactly like any other CB. In ways, all my CBs so far have been a mix of salespitches and interrogatory-style of questions, and this kinda fit in line with that. People were nice and calm. It was a pleasant experience. Definitely no grilling or intense line of questioning, but people weren't sucking up or trying to sell for their lives. The hiring partner had a badass decorated office. Lunch was great-- I went into it with my offer, but we didn't talk about work/law/summer associateship once.




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