bruinfan10 wrote: rpupkin wrote: flawschoolkid wrote:
AveryTolar wrote:Let me rephrase, where in the class rank would someone have to be to realistically have a shot in hell of being competitive?
1/XXX. You're going to need a 2/9/DC (or equivalent for Texas cases) Clerkship to have a shot, just like every applicant.
Although it's difficult to get hired at Susman, the bolded isn't actually true.
You know the person's out of their depth when they don't acknowledge there are feeders everywhere. As if Susman would turn its nose up at a Gorsuch, Colloton, Kethledge, or Boudin clerk because they're not 2/9/DC.
And Susman doesn't even require feeders--pretty sure it's just run of the mill 5th Cir. usually.
IIRC from my cb there, some of the associates were TX D.Ct as well. Definitely not 2/9/DC required - as is readily apparent from firm bios.
Anonymous User wrote:It has far less to do with who the judge is and far more to do with the person's overall resume. Moreover, a lot of people are hired from the summer program. And at the time we got OCI offers for summer, we hadn't even applied for clerkships.
Strangely enough, these days many (if not most) people competitive for Susman will have clerkships lined up by the time they do OCI. I wonder if that will lead them to doing a more traditional SA program.
Couple dynamics that probably work against this:
1) If you're a Susman, you don't want to go 100% offer given the, uh, unique personality of the firm and emphasis on fit. And you don't need to go 100% or full summer program to get top candidates. But you probably need to at the very least encourage / allow splits given that fact, and the fact that students aren't dumb - the short program helps with that. I didn't end up getting an offer from there post-CB, but I would've been somewhat terrified of taking it were it a full program. They are super demanding and there was definitely a type.
2) TX historical inertia in favor of the four-week program. Susman was the only TX firm I was looking at so I don't know whether this is going away elsewhere.
3) Top candidates w/ feeder clerkships probably more likely to jump ship. Not like Susman is hurting for cash, obviously, but still.
Also, just as a side note: I only know of one other person at my school that did a CB there last fall, and they also did not have a clerkship lined up yet. While hiring was obviously really early last year, having something lined up already during callback season was still fairly rare.
Seems like other anon might have summered there so I also defer to their experience. Just my 2c as someone with a marginal amount more info than the average joe.